Lou8670 Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Noticing how active it is on PP just lately. So is everyone looking to migrate to WA!? A friend of mine is looking to emigrate to Adelaide and commented that everyone else seems to be going to Perth. Just thought it was interesting and wondering what impact it will have on looking for work etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 (edited) Don't know about the impact on work - but love that our little site is getting more traffic. I think it provides some great views (warts and all) of our state/city and suburbs. Edit to add ... Thanks everyone for your contributions and keeping the site friendly and welcoming Edited June 26, 2013 by ali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candygirl Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I must admit I was initially shocked by how many people were going to Perth. There are also many people moving there from other states as well. It is brilliant that there is a dedicted site to WA with like minded people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraighttothePoint Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 (edited) Recent TV and newspaper reports suggest down turn so my brain cannot understand where all the jobs are? Companies are shedding staff left, right and centre and retail is all but stuffed. I know that in our technology based set up we have just been able to keep all our contractors in jobs, some for 3 months, some for six and only one or two for 12 months, but their rates for next year have not increased. Big corporates are cutting back big style. All our guys have had the option to look elsewhere but they could not find anything out there even on their current rate. Mining is going south and the boom is over. That spins off for us all. Yet people keep coming. It is like the government is happy to keep issuing visas even though they know the economy is sliding. Why would they do that? To get the numbers in so that the money machine keeps turning? Who knows... All I know is that I would be having second thoughts if it was me at this current point in time thinking of coming over. I would be waiting to see what happens over the next 6 to 9 months even if I had my visa. I know that tactic will not suit everyone, and that some are coming to a job, but drawing breathe for a few months may pay dividends. The other thing of course is that it is not just the UK that people are deserting, it is other countries / areas as well like South Africa, parts of Asia, Europe, NZ etc. If you add those all together then something has to give. Perth is a boom and bust city (town really) and we have had the boom...... Edited June 26, 2013 by StraighttothePoint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest9824 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 I have also thought about the money making machine that is 'migration' and I agree with what you say STTP and have most definately thought the same, it can only be that the government is making millions out of unsuspecting would be migrants, paying their thousands in application fees, in the hope that the skilled migration list is 'up to date' when it clearly isnt, it is such a worry, I can totally understand people wanting to come here, but the reality of getting a job here, doesnt seem to match with whats being 'lived out' for alot of people who are already here or recently arrived. It seems unfair, when you come over, with your cash in your pocket spend in the shops and buy homes, kit them out, buy cars, keep the economy afloat, only to find there is no payback, no job...then having to come to the conclusion that you have to pack up and move back to whereever you came from because you cant afford to live here, with a lot less in your pockets. It is a harsh reality for some unfortunately. The only winner seems to be government and the economy. Sorry to sound a little negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou8670 Posted June 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 (edited) I have also thought about the money making machine that is 'migration' and I agree with what you say STTP and have most definately thought the same, it can only be that the government is making millions out of unsuspecting would be migrants, paying their thousands in application fees, in the hope that the skilled migration list is 'up to date' when it clearly isnt, it is such a worry, I can totally understand people wanting to come here, but the reality of getting a job here, doesnt seem to match with whats being 'lived out' for alot of people who are already here or recently arrived. It seems unfair, when you come over, with your cash in your pocket spend in the shops and buy homes, kit them out, buy cars, keep the economy afloat, only to find there is no payback, no job...then having to come to the conclusion that you have to pack up and move back to whereever you came from because you cant afford to live here, with a lot less in your pockets. It is a harsh reality for some unfortunately. The only winner seems to be government and the economy. Sorry to sound a little negative. Very worrying comments We have just got our visa and are planning on selling up and coming out within the next 12 months. Really scary as we are giving up so much....nice house, 2 cars, private schooling at top school here, 2 well paid jobs etc etc. Things have been very bad here and lots of job cuts but people are still making money and driving around in flash cars. It can't be bad for all surely? Edited June 27, 2013 by Lou8670 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest9824 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Very worrying comments We have just got out visa and are planning on selling up and coming out within the next 12 months. Really scary as we are giving up so much....nice house, 2 cars, private schooling at top school here, 2 well paid jobs etc etc. Things have been very bad here and lots of job cuts but people are still making money and driving around in flash cars. It can't be bad for all surely? Lou it is a reality for some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portlaunay Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 The situation for me is very clear - Australia or UK, my future is pretty bleak. I've always flown by the seat of my pants, never really had a plan but taken every opportunity that came along. If I lost my job, had to retrain, downsize, scrape an existence even I'd likely have to face the same situation at some point in my future whether the UK or any other country. The UK never felt like home, I never liked living there and so, to coin a phrase, wherever I lay my hat is my home. James Gandolfini was nine years older than me when he died. I think it's terrifying to think that I may have just nine years with my children and if that was the case I'd like to be able to say that no one around me was ever bothered about how much money I had, what car I drove, shoes I wore or the size of my house, just that I loved my kids and they thought I was awesome. So, the sun is shining, I'm making ice cream, my ten year old son just walked to the shops on his own for me (something I'd never let him do in London), who knows what tomorrow brings. Stop worrying and live. What was it Lennon said - "Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans." And, in answer to the OP's observation, yes, PP does seem busy and that's to do with all you awesome people who make a fantastic contribution to this forum. Cheers everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou8670 Posted June 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 The situation for me is very clear - Australia or UK, my future is pretty bleak. I've always flown by the seat of my pants, never really had a plan but taken every opportunity that came along. If I lost my job, had to retrain, downsize, scrape an existence even I'd likely have to face the same situation at some point in my future whether the UK or any other country. The UK never felt like home, I never liked living there and so, to coin a phrase, wherever I lay my hat is my home. James Gandolfini was nine years older than me when he died. I think it's terrifying to think that I may have just nine years with my children and if that was the case I'd like to be able to say that no one around me was ever bothered about how much money I had, what car I drove, shoes I wore or the size of my house, just that I loved my kids and they thought I was awesome. So, the sun is shining, I'm making ice cream, my ten year old son just walked to the shops on his own for me (something I'd never let him do in London), who knows what tomorrow brings. Stop worrying and live. What was it Lennon said - "Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans." And, in answer to the OP's observation, yes, PP does seem busy and that's to do with all you awesome people who make a fantastic contribution to this forum. Cheers everyone! Love your post portlaunay. At the end of the day all the money in the world can't buy you happiness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobopaulsy Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 It's funny but i do agree with PL.....we are hoping to be in Perth by Sept. My wife and I work full time and earn quite well. We have 3 kids who have a decent lifestyle and tend not to want for much. They are healthy, we are healthy and it's funny but in April we got an offer from a family who wanted to take out a 2 year lease on our house here in Scotland but wanted to move in almost immediately....we packed up our nice 5 Bedroom house and moved to a small 2 bedroom flat as a stop gap....albeit it closer to work and schools....since we done that we have strangely found that our quality of life is so much better already as I walk with the kids everynight up and down the riverside....it was sunny here yesterday we called that Summer !!!!!! I've walked/cycled to work almost everyday for the last 2-3 months now and enjoy it so much.... I am getting to a point here........ Life will be what you make of it where you are..... I want to move to Perth out of choice for better weather and if I can have a similar lifestyle i'll be absolutely delighted. If my kids are smiling then to be honest that has a huge value to me personally..... I don't think it will be easy but we are both prepared to work hard at it and as long as we have a roof and some food it will be great.... Portlaunay....we should meet for a beer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akasully2 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 An inspiring post Portluanay. I spend so much of my time worrying, probably needlessly. Someone once said (was it that song 'Use SunScreen'?) that we worry about all the things that could go wrong but in fact is is the phone call you receive out of the blue on tuesday at 3pm that impacts on your life so much. Something you couldn't have anticipated. Gandolfino moment. So if Perth is at the bust stage as you say, is that reflected in the whole of Oz or is it just WA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 While the number of migrants heading to WA has increased over the last 3 or 4 years, NSW, VIC & QLD still attract more permanent additions. If anyone's interested in the stats, the latest DIAC figures can be found in the 'Migration to Australia's states and territories' report @ http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/statistics/immigration-update/migration-australia-states-territories-2011-12.pdf From a forum point of view, visitor numbers have been steadily growing for the last 3 years now. (chart below) This month, the forum will probably receive the most number of posts/month since it's been online. Obviously we're delighted that the forum is being used more and more and hope everyone finds it a worthwhile resource. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest9824 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Im not trying to scare monger, I wouldnt be first in the queue at that at all, I would be one of thefirst to say go for it, with your eyes wide open and fully in the knowledge that you may not get that golden ticket here straight away, It was a question posed, whether there were jobs for all the peeps coming here, and in my opinion, not sure where all the jobs will come from. Sorry if I have upset anyone, thats not my intention. Been in a position here ourselves that we may have had no income whatsoever, and its scary, but we would have batten down the hatches, taken stock and come up with a plan....life is a lotto....and I totally agree with Porty about seizing the day, unfortunately we live in a materialistic world, and not everyone has the same values, lots are hellbent on having the best of everything, earning the most they can, spending it on everything and anything. I know what the important things are in my life and they are free... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyplasterer Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 ive been struggling for work here for 2 years so I feel it cant be as bad for me , I cant wait to step foot on Australian soil, nothing about the uk makes me want to stay (except family & friends). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraighttothePoint Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 So if Perth is at the bust stage as you say, is that reflected in the whole of Oz or is it just WA? I do not think anyone is saying Perth is at the bust stage more that firstly it is a boom and bust town and that the boom is definately over. The bust may come, it may not and that is the tricky thing to try and manage in terms of finding out some real, hard facts about jobs and the job market. Mining companies, and others, are starting to shed jobs and also cut back on the high pay rates, both signs of a down turn. This is a great forum, we all know that, but nice, kind, fluffy words in all the various thread do not put food on the table for familes or pay mortgages and rents. his is really more about information and research. Yes there may be more people using or visting this site but the trick for those committing to moving here has to be how many understand Perth in terms of it's current economic state? Jumping to what we wanted, a better lifestyle, is probably why we many of us did it or are considering doing it and that is still very much relevant however is it as easy now to achieve that? I do not know. I simply try to pose the questions and point out some information. Everyone then has to make their own decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portlaunay Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 nice, kind, fluffy words in all the various thread do not put food on the table for familes or pay mortgages and rents. Unless you're a storyteller, actor, counsellor, life coach, children's entertainer, Butlins rep, Brian Cox or Winnie the Pooh. Or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraighttothePoint Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Unless you're a storyteller, actor, counsellor, life coach, children's entertainer, Butlins rep, Brian Cox or Winnie the Pooh. Or something. Nice one... How to dampen a good debate, use your vastly better intelligence, that's not fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portlaunay Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Nice one... How to dampen a good debate, use your vastly better intelligence, that's not fair You're welcome, always a pleasure, I'm here every week, how's the wife, I'll get my coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Just on the subject of the forum, with the forum becoming busier, threads tend to stay on the 'front-page' of the forum for less time and can quickly disappear from view as not everyone clicks on the individual forums to see what's been posted. With this in mind, if members could help out by occasionally casting their eye over the 'unanswered threads' to see if there's any queries they can help out with (or even just to say hello to new members) we'd be extremely grateful. Unanswered threads can be viewed by clicking on the 'unanswered threads menu option at the top of the page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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