Emma912 Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Evening all (or morning to perth!!) I'm probably going to be told that I haven't been waiting very long at all but all I think about daily is getting to Perth so it seems like forever! I'm a mental health nurse and I've been looking for work in Perth for nearly 3 moths now and not heard a thing from anyone. I've got my AHPRA reg, a good degree and nearly 3 years experience plus some lovely references from my employers. I got some great advice from WA health here in the UK and a lovely lady on here called Ali, who both advised on how to complete applications and address the selection criteria element. I'm feeling a little disheartened but still very determined, as after going to an emigration expo was led to believe that it takes on average 3 months from job application to arrival (however this was a recruitment company who took all my details and haven't contacted me in over 2 months now). Is it just really slow or am I not looking in the right places/doing something wrong? I have been told by WA health that as I'm here and not there, and don't have a visa I won't even be looked at unless they cannot fill vacancies with Australians (which is fair enough but as I've only seen 4 jobs with WA Health I'm guessing its highly unlikely that they won't be able to fill them with Australians). I've also looked on job sites at some private hospitals in and around Perth but no vacancies. Want to be in Oz ?any advice? (Do not want to risk going without a job as I have a family to think about and wouldn't want to put that sort of financial strain on them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 We employ people from the UK a lot - there isn't much going at the moment - a lot of fixed term contracts. The recruitment process can be a slow on., as someone who convenes panels one of the hold ups is often getting references from the UK, the panels selection then has to go to HR before being signed off - going back to HCN for the job offer to go out - if you then have to apply for your visa/sell house etc., it can take several months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma912 Posted September 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Hi! I've wanted to move to Australia for so many years and I guess that now Im actively trying I just want it to happen......quickly!!! I will just be patient though and keep trying. I was talking to someone at WA health the other day and they said that although the Fiona Stanley is due to be ready by the end of this year, they won't be putting staff in till this time next year (my AHPRA will have expired by then) so I was wandering - with regard to the fixed term contracts, what's your view on doing that in order to get there and then looking for further employment for when the contract ends (and whether there is a visa that allows that to happen-we want to go and stay and not have to come back!) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chardy Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 What visa do you have ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Can you afford to come over and activate your registration (i'm assuming you only have a letter of eligibility?) if you're actually registered you can just renew. Our fixed term are often for a few months - to cover leave etc, Are you applying for a visa already? Why not contact some of the hospitals directly and ask if they currently have any positions advertised - they'll provide the link for any jobs they have going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma912 Posted September 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Hi, I don't have a visa - I am looking for an Employer Sponsored Visa (457) as I was recommended to try this route (it also seems like a safer option re.having a job to go to). I would consider the 189 as a last resort but as I mentioned I don't really want to put my family in the stressful situation of having no income and limited savings in a new country in case it took too long to find a job. What route did you do? I saw your dates (pretty quick!) but wasn't sure of some of the abbreviations!! ☺ QUOTE=Chardy;73873]What visa do you have ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma912 Posted September 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Hi Ali, not really, well not right now anyway as I don't want to eat in to our 'Australia fund'. Yes, my AHPRA eligibility is to be activated by July 2014 so my reason for previous question was because I'm thinking that as that date gets close, maybe I should either think about looking for a fixed term position or applying for a 189 and coming over so I can activate it. If I did that it would be another 6 months down the line and we'd have more savings so could cope without work for a short while. I like the suggestion about contacting hospitals direct, just finished a 3 night stint so it'll make no difference staying up late tonight to make a phone call!! Thanks again for your advice. Bye bye from a sleepy Emma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) Hi, I don't have a visa - I am looking for an Employer Sponsored Visa (457) as I was recommended to try this route (it also seems like a safer option re.having a job to go to). I would consider the 189 as a last resort but as I mentioned I don't really want to put my family in the stressful situation of having no income and limited savings in a new country in case it took too long to find a job. What route did you do? I saw your dates (pretty quick!) but wasn't sure of some of the abbreviations!! ☺ QUOTE=Chardy;73873]What visa do you have ? Not my visa of choice Emma if you have other options. You're tired to the employer - what if you don't like it - limited capacity to move. If you have children, you'll also be stung for $4,000 per year per child for education. As I said before, fixed term positions are generally to cover leave periods, so it may be unlikely that you'd be offered one if you haven't already got your visa and good to go. Edited September 16, 2013 by ali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma912 Posted September 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Hi Ali, sorry me being a bit thick-which one do you mean, the 457? If so what do you recommend? The only other one I know a little about is the 189. Do you think it would be better to get that first and then look for jobs from the UK? Thanks Ali-I appreciate all the advice, this site is so useful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chardy Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Emma, I agree with Ali that the 457 is a risky visa especially if you have kids which is why we went for a 176 WA state sponsored visa which is now the 190 by the way, do you qualify for that one as its quicker than the 189 ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma912 Posted September 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Hi guys! I'm getting so confused!! After the above advice (thank you - seems to make sense) I started to look at the 170 (only reason I was going the 457 route was because that's what I was advised was my best option) and decided to contact an migration specialist to make it a little easier. I'm now confused and worried that actually I won't be able to do the 170....mainly because of the cost. In addition to being told the visas will cost a whopping £3000 for me,hubby and young daughter (and that they are due to increase again next month) I've also been told that the lengthy and costly process I went through with AHPRA has got to be repeated all over again but this time for ANMAC for the skills assessment. I'm so disappointed as that stage took me ages and cost a fortune getting documents notarised, not to mention how long it took for the university to arrange a transcript (2 months just for the transcript) plus the fees for NMC confirmation, references, etc. I can't believe I will have to do all this again - is there no way AHPRA can forward confirmation? Feeling very sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Contact them. I know if you have registration you can apply for a modified skills assessment with ANMAC (who will pass documents to AHPRA ... just not sure if the other way around). or Contact AHPRA and tell them you have your letter of eligibility does that mean you can apply for a modified skills assessment. Good luck Alison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmacl Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 If you cant afford £3000 to pay for the visa then you should forget Australia. To emigrate here on PR you will need at least £30000 once you factor in all costs and even that would be a tight budget. Coming on a 457 with a family is a bad move as if you lose your job you will have to leave the country unless you find another sponsor as well as pay for your children to go to school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest10912 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 For someone who has wanted to move to Australia for a long time, you haven't done your homework. The 457 is probably not the best visa, I cannot think of a worse one for a young family to be honest, I am feeling this particularly today after reading this desperately sad thread about what can happen on that darned visa: http://www.perthpoms.com/forum/migration-issues/12996-457-189-google-page-ranking.html#post74450 Just because a 457 visa means you have a job, it does not mean that every other visa means you don't have a job. We got the 175 (now the 189) visa but we both had jobs to go to when we moved. There are a lot more options and job hunting is a hell of a lot easier if you already have a visa and the employer doesn't have to bother with sponsorship. I do think you need to take a step back and really take stock of where you are and think about your next steps which includes should you be thinking of this at all. I am also very concerned that if you cannot afford the visa fee, then you cannot afford to move to Australia. For sure if you cannot afford a visa fee then you cannot afford to move on a 457 visa, no childcare help and $4500 school fees for each child are surely more than a visa fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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