Sarz86 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 New to this site and not sure how I post a question to get some advise. Me me and my partner are on a whv and my partner is a bricky currently working on an abn we have found out he can only work for 6 months on this is this right? We are also looking to stay but bricklaying is no longer on the skills list so is sponsorship a really hard route to take for a bricky? Any advise would really appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossmoyne Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I doubt very much that your fiance would find sponsorship as a bricklayer. The majority of Brickies are self employed in WA and not employed directly by companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarz86 Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 This is what we was thinking this is the same as England do you know about the abn? Can you only work 6 months using it on a whv? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifi69 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 You can only work for the same company for 6 months on a WHV, although I'm not sure what happens when/if you do your regional work and then get your 2nd visa if then you have a bit more flexibility ....rules change all the time.. Its daft that they have taken bricklayers off the list...my eldest daughter works for a house builder and they are crying out for brickies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verystormy Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 If you do the regional work required to get a second WHV then you can do 6 months on the first one, then the next six months on the second one with the same employer, meaning you can work overall between the two visas for the same employer for 12 months. Do though ensure you qualify for the second year. With regards sponsorship, is bricklayer still on the CSOL or has it been removed from there? If it has been removed, then sponsorship would not help as sponsorship still requires the occupation to be on the sol or CSOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salnjon14 Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 hi me and my partner are in the exact same situation he is a bricklayer and is eager for sponsorship I know this post is from a few months ago so just thought I would see if you managed to do anything. I know the bricklayer is currently on the CSOL list but not SOL. We have been advised to apply for the 186 visa but as therr are so many different options we are so confused. Any help would be appreciated :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verystormy Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 hi me and my partner are in the exact same situation he is a bricklayer and is eager for sponsorship I know this post is from a few months ago so just thought I would see if you managed to do anything. I know the bricklayer is currently on the CSOL list but not SOL. We have been advised to apply for the 186 visa but as therr are so many different options we are so confused. Any help would be appreciated :-) First of all i would forget the 186. This is an employer sponsored PR visa and for bricklayers the chances would be up there with the flying pigs. I have just checked the list, and yes it is on. That is the good news. The next thing you need to do is check the WA, i have had a look and it does not seem to be on there. To gain a visa for an occupation on the CSOL you need to have either state or employer sponsorship. As employer is VERY unlikely (i have never heard of one), and it is not on the WA list, then a visa to Perth would seem not possible. However, you could check the other states to see if any of them are sponsoring. If it is Perth though you want, all you can do is keep checking the WA list to see if it comes back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salnjon14 Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Thank you so much, that is exactly what we thought to be honest but our migration agent said we would qualify for 457 as his employer has offered sponsorship it was just she advised 186 as a starter. Hmm definitely something to think about. It is mad when WA is crying out for bricklayers. Our visa ends October this year so looking into regional as a last resort which would give a further 12 months. Thank you again for looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verystormy Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 If your employer has offered sponsorship, then take it. It would be a risk as to later gain PR they would need to sponsor that as well. But it gets you at least 4 years. You could ask about a 186, but as time is not on your side, i would do both - take a 457, then once granted go the 186 if the company are willing to sponsor that as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salnjon14 Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Yeah we will try his employer is a typical laid back Aussie haha if I can say that... Need to keep on top of it as it's not cheap $13k for PR and $9k for 457 in total but if it means staying then its a no brainer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verystormy Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I dont knwow where you are getting them fees from, but they seem wildly out. The issue you may have with 457 - or any other business sponsored - is does the employer qualify. A lot do not and particularly small companies. Are you sure your agent is a MARA agent? Some of the advice seems a bit "odd" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portlaunay Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I don't understand why you're being quoted anything for a 457 visa, there should be virtually no cost to you, the employer absorbs most of the cost and they are not allowed to pass this on to the employee. There is a fee to pay when you submit your part of the application but if memory serves me right, ours was around £400. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verystormy Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Yep Porty - that is why i am a bit dubious of the "agent" they are using Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druid Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I don't understand why you're being quoted anything for a 457 visa, there should be virtually no cost to you, the employer absorbs most of the cost and they are not allowed to pass this on to the employee. There is a fee to pay when you submit your part of the application but if memory serves me right, ours was around £400. There is a fee for the company to "Qualify" to be able to sponsor a 457, and then there's the company sponsorship / application fee, but I'm not sure how much it is, then there's the individual fee to apply for a 457, and don't forget the extortionate medical fees, I think I was about $4k in the hole by the time I had a 457 granted, let alone what it cost the company, and that was 3 years ago. correction: my medical fees were for my PR application Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portlaunay Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 There is a fee for the company to "Qualify" to be able to sponsor a 457, and then there's the company sponsorship / application fee, but I'm not sure how much it is, then there's the individual fee to apply for a 457, and don't forget the extortionate medical fees, I think I was about $4k in the hole by the time I had a 457 granted, let alone what it cost the company, and that was 3 years ago. correction: my medical fees were for my PR application The "Qualification" fee you talk of should be absorbed by the employer, they are not allowed to pass this on to the employee, it is entirely their cost. This is the same for the company sponsorship. The only cost to the individual is when they submit their part of the application. Like I say, ours was certainly no more than £450 and that was also three years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verystormy Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 There is a fee for the company to "Qualify" to be able to sponsor a 457, and then there's the company sponsorship / application fee, but I'm not sure how much it is, then there's the individual fee to apply for a 457, and don't forget the extortionate medical fees, I think I was about $4k in the hole by the time I had a 457 granted, let alone what it cost the company, and that was 3 years ago. correction: my medical fees were for my PR application It is illegal for an employer to pass on the fees they incur such as the nomination fees. Any company that does may be barred from later nominations. Normally 457 holder now no loger require medicals unless working in teaching or a medical role such as nursing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verystormy Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 ... and an applicant who has paid the fees for the sponsoring company may put their visa at risk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salnjon14 Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Yeah the fees were for both us and the employer I know we can't pay it... We couldn't pay all that either no way. Thank you guys loving this website already and only been on it a day. Yeah nothing is set in stone yet with the agent we have contacted so also going to try go Matilda and one a friend used who are based in the bhp building I think she said so early days but definitely helped us out. Just shows how much help these forums can be. I will keep you posted on how we get on when we contact the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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