nikkiwd Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 sorry Philipp, missed that you are already in Sydney, I think you do need an employment offer if you are already in OZ in another state. what visa are you on just now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Philipp Teleshevskiy Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 sorry Philipp, missed that you are already in Sydney, I think you do need an employment offer if you are already in OZ in another state.what visa are you on just now? I have 457 since 10/2012, I do not understand how am I suppose to find job in WA without moving out from Sydney and quitting current job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkiwd Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 They do these things to make sure there aren't lots of people coming over then they are not able to find work once they get there. You would also be subject to the needing sufficient money for re-settlement. I think it would be hard to find a job when you haven't got a pr visa already but have a look on gumtree and seek etc. good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebradeb Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 I think that the IELTS test is a good thing. Having a British Passport doesn't mean you have good English. I teach children that can't speak a word and those kids bless them don't get any extra support to learn English, its not classed as a special educational need. So to be honest, at least if IELTS is in place its a fair bench mark. On the flip side, I've had kids come in who aren't British passport holders and have a better grasp of English than some of those who have a UK passport. The bench mark has to be somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkiwd Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 but if you have a british passport you don't have to sit it, they consider that you already have good enough english (tried to paste the paragraph but won't work). Maybe by the time your poor english speaking kids grow up and decide to move to OZ they will have improved  god that sounds like I am talking about your own kids, I mean your school kids! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda21 Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 It does say you have to prove there are jobs advertised - how do you do that?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkiwd Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 I would imagine copy and paste the links from websites onto the application or print off, scan and attach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiana Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 1 - 7 bands english2 - minimum 1 year australian experience. Minimum 3 years overseas 3 - no offer but you need contract for 1 year p.s i am screwed     Hi Sagar,  I hope things are going well for you!  Hoping to get your help coz I'm planning to apply as a Welfare Worker under 190 to WA but I've yet to find a job w a 1 year contract or launch my EOI.  I'm not sure whether to look for work (a) before I launch my EOI OR (b) after I've launch my EOI & received WA State Sponsorship invite (so I can use the time frame of 60 days to find someone to hire me).  Also, do I need to submit an employment contract with my application for a State Sponsporship invite? Or only when I'm invited to apply for the 190?  Thanks for your help! (Or any1 else who can help me with this!)    PS: I'm based in Singapore currently  - Fiana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Askewfamily Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 hi there I too am hoping to move to Perth with my family my husband is a lawyer but in the eyes of the Australian sol he is not solicitor so we now need to get there with my work. I was, prior to children, a youth worker/family and children's worker, both are not on the sol and not on Perth's csol!!! I have nearly completed a social work degree so I'm hoping that I can somehow make this happen!!! so any advice on migration help with visas I'm unsure on what company to use so any advice would be greatly appreciated given the complexity of our case it seesm we will need help. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portlaunay Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 hi there I too am hoping to move to Perth with my family my husband is a lawyer but in the eyes of the Australian sol he is not solicitor so we now need to get there with my work. I was, prior to children, a youth worker/family and children's worker, both are not on the sol and not on Perth's csol!!! I have nearly completed a social work degree so I'm hoping that I can somehow make this happen!!! so any advice on migration help with visas I'm unsure on what company to use so any advice would be greatly appreciated given the complexity of our case it seesm we will need help. thanks  I think you will need a certain amount of post-grad experience. I'm not certain, there have been others on here discussing social work so you may find out more specific information by searching. Have you spoken to a migration agent? They may be the best option for you in obtaining good, sound advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verystormy Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 hi there I too am hoping to move to Perth with my family my husband is a lawyer but in the eyes of the Australian sol he is not solicitor so we now need to get there with my work. I was, prior to children, a youth worker/family and children's worker, both are not on the sol and not on Perth's csol!!! I have nearly completed a social work degree so I'm hoping that I can somehow make this happen!!! so any advice on migration help with visas I'm unsure on what company to use so any advice would be greatly appreciated given the complexity of our case it seesm we will need help. thanks  I think you should speak to a good registered migration agent - try Go Matilda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Askewfamily Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 thanks ill take a look do you know how much they cost at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verystormy Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Go Matilda will do an initial assessment for free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portlaunay Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 thanks ill take a look do you know how much they cost at all? Â I think most good ones will want to know about your circumstances and give you an idea of your options without charging. As VS says Go Matilda seem to have a good reputation but there are others. Just make sure they are registered, there are some dodgy ones unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Askewfamily Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 thanks really appreciate the help. Finding it all very hard going me and the hubby have been together since 15 and all we wanted to do was get a goo education and move to Australia It now looks like we should have one for less qualified jobs!!! sol and csol seem to have jobs such as café manager dog and cat kennel worker ect types of jobs. Feel sad that now we are 30 and 32 time is passing us by and we seem to be in a worse position to obtain a visa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portlaunay Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 thanks really appreciate the help. Finding it all very hard going me and the hubby have been together since 15 and all we wanted to do was get a goo education and move to Australia It now looks like we should have one for less qualified jobs!!! sol and csol seem to have jobs such as café manager dog and cat kennel worker ect types of jobs. Feel sad that now we are 30 and 32 time is passing us by and we seem to be in a worse position to obtain a visa.  The issue you face is that whatever job you try to get visa for, you will have to provide evidence for continued and extensive experience in that role. You might be forever chasing roles on the SOL. There's nothing to stop you spending the next five years working as a cafe manager only to find it removed from the SOL the week before you apply. Then again, you could continue doing what you do and in a year or two your roles reappear. Do yourselves a favour and get some credible advice and the very best of luck in the future, let us know how you get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verystormy Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 The worst case scenario is it will take a bit longer if all you need is some more experience. Not always a bad thing. The move is VERY expensive - think 10's of thousands - so it is some time to be saving as well. Â But, do get some proffessional advice! Â What ever, stay on the board and keep part of the little community we have here. It will also keep you up to date with any changes to the rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Askewfamily Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 thanks again portlaunay- we both have many years of experience since 2006 for myself and 2000 for my hubby. I have been off from paid work since 2012 since having our first child. Although I worked in social care I did not complete my MA in social work so have contacted a uni in perth to finis my studies with them as I currently have 2 more modules to do. as for hubby he works as a lawyer and has just finished his LPC which is equivalent to Australian Graduate Diploma in Law he has not completed this training contract which is the same as the graduate position and completing the 2 years as a Restricted Practitioner. therefore without this final element he is unable to catagorise himself as a solicitor. All very frustrating. Â will contact Matilda today. Hopefully some positives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HannahS Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Hi, Â It's my first post on here, but I have a similar problem to some of you. I've gone through the whole process right up to submitting my EOI last week. I'm on the Schedule 2 WASMOL as Emergency Services Worker. Now I'm not sure whether I'm supposed to apply for a job before getting an invitation to apply, or to try to get a job contract first before WA will consider sending me an invitation to apply. I'm not with a migration agent as I found it to be too expensive and so far so good (though I failed my first skills assessment as my work experience wasn't close enough), but I'm now stuck on this hurdle! I have started applying for some jobs, but I'm not sure if I'm wasting my time as I would prefer a 190 visa as there's less risk with it if I lost my job. Any advice gratefully received! I scored 75 for the 190 and 80 for the 489, though apparently this doesn't matter for state sponsorship as long as it's at least 60. Â Thanks, Â Hannah (in the UK) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verystormy Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Hi Hannah and welcome to the forum. Â Before you can apply for state sponsorship for either a 190 or 489 you will need to prove you have a job offer that is valid for at least 12 months. So, before you go further, you need to start job hunting. Â The reason though it is schedule 2 is because there is very little demand at the moment for that occupation. So finding a job will be the hard part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiana Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Hi, It's my first post on here, but I have a similar problem to some of you. I've gone through the whole process right up to submitting my EOI last week. I'm on the Schedule 2 WASMOL as Emergency Services Worker. Now I'm not sure whether I'm supposed to apply for a job before getting an invitation to apply, or to try to get a job contract first before WA will consider sending me an invitation to apply. I'm not with a migration agent as I found it to be too expensive and so far so good (though I failed my first skills assessment as my work experience wasn't close enough), but I'm now stuck on this hurdle! I have started applying for some jobs, but I'm not sure if I'm wasting my time as I would prefer a 190 visa as there's less risk with it if I lost my job. Any advice gratefully received! I scored 75 for the 190 and 80 for the 489, though apparently this doesn't matter for state sponsorship as long as it's at least 60.  Thanks,  Hannah (in the UK)    Hi Hannah,  yup, same boat! I'm a 'welfare worker' in schedule 2. I haven't put up an EOI yet coz i don't have a job offer. My 'sales pitch' to potential employer s is that i will be granted a visa in abt 3months if given a 12 month contract. Its quite a stretch but fingers crossed i guess. If it helps, below is the reply i got from WA migration... My take is if WA offers u an invite to apply for state nomination, you have 28 days to cough up a 12 month contract. If you don't i guess you get rejected & waste the invite. If i'm not wrong, after 2 invites, theres a debarment period on skills select (any one know exactly)?  All the best  -Fiana  "The first step in applying for State nomination is to lodge an Expression of Interest (EOI) in the Department of Immigration and Border Protection SkillSelect database.   Skilled Migration Western Australia reviews the EOIs in SkillSelect weekly and makes contact with eligible applicants.   Please refer to the State nomination criteria for more information regarding your eligibility for State nomination:   If your EOI appears to meet the requirements in the preliminary assessment, you will receive an email advising you that your expression of interest is being considered by Western Australia. No action is to be taken at this stage.   After further consideration, if eligible, you will receive another email with an invitation to apply for State nomination.   You will then have 28 days to complete your application which must meet the State nomination criteria. You must submit you contract of employment when you lodge your application.   There will be a $200 non-refundable application fee.   If your application is successful, Skilled Migration Western Australia will nominate you in SkillSelect and the Department of Immigration and Border Protection will send you an invitation to apply for your visa." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7cdb Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Hi Hannah and welcome to the forum. Â Before you can apply for state sponsorship for either a 190 or 489 you will need to prove you have a job offer that is valid for at least 12 months. So, before you go further, you need to start job hunting. Â The reason though it is schedule 2 is because there is very little demand at the moment for that occupation. So finding a job will be the hard part. Â Is this true? Â My agent is aiming for 190 visa,I will have no such job offer as I will have to re-sit some exams to prove I have a licence (Arctik etc) So I can not be offered a job until I have these?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Is this true? My agent is aiming for 190 visa,I will have no such job offer as I will have to re-sit some exams to prove I have a licence (Arctik etc) So I can not be offered a job until I have these??????  Think some confusion, state sponser visa is a 189 not a 190, a 190 is do what you like visa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7cdb Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Think some confusion, state sponser visa is a 189 not a 190, a 190 is do what you like visa.  Jason  How you getting on with things:cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verystormy Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Think some confusion, state sponser visa is a 189 not a 190, a 190 is do what you like visa. Â Wrong way round. A 189 is unsponsored. A 190 is state sponsored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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