MrsM Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Has anyone seen the news about the passenger plane flying over Ukraine? Makes me nervous because thats a popular 'cheaper' route for flying to Australia - UK to Amsterdam, Amsterdam to KL (the route of the plane which crashed) the KL onto Australia. So sad when you hear news like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julesktm1 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 It is indeed. So very sad for the families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<Dan> Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Very sad news for everyone involved. I don't think MA will be in business for much longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsM Posted July 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Another Malaysian Airlines plane as well. My husband works away, so I always get worried when I hear about anything to do with planes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyLeB Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 We flew with MA when we went to validate our visas, don't think we would fly with them again. We just came through schiphol late yesterday afternoon returning from holiday. It's just so sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verystormy Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 It has been confirmed it was shot down by a missile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou8670 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 This is very bad...27 Aussies on board...not sure how many Brits...those poor people and how terrible for their families... http://m.perthnow.com.au/?nk=0d89e9cabdf0165aa87a501895236d6b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plimthing Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 The airline will be fine after this act of terrorism, they just pointed a missile and shot it down. It could have been any airline over flying on that air corridor, like a public freeway in the sky. The world is going mad. Who ever takes blame for this one shall be in the deepest of poo. Sad times for all involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfie Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 The airline will be fine after this act of terrorism, they just pointed a missile and shot it down. It could have been any airline over flying on that air corridor, like a public freeway in the sky. The world is going mad. Who ever takes blame for this one shall be in the deepest of poo. Sad times for all involved. Indeed but I dont think I would fly into or out of KL any time soon ..................... There was a phone transcript on channel 24 news of a Ukraine rebel speaking to someone I think a Russian military chap the word "spies" on board. It sounded like justification that it was ok if there was a spy or spies the flight. Israel have moved ground forces into Gaza - dont mess with the Israeli's over the supposed said chosen land. The world police - The Americans and their lap dog countries will no doubt will be involved in some respect. I fear massive world unrest presently not good for us humans. Any way on a lighter note im off out with said dog for a trot happy weekend everyone .................. be safe out there dont fly Malaysia air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plimthing Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Indeed but I dont think I would fly into or out of KL any time soon .....................There was a phone transcript on channel 24 news of a Ukraine rebel speaking to someone I think a Russian military chap the word "spies" on board. It sounded like justification that it was ok if there was a spy or spies the flight. Israel have moved ground forces into Gaza - dont mess with the Israeli's over the supposed said chosen land. The world police - The Americans and their lap dog countries will no doubt will be involved in some respect. I fear massive world unrest presently not good for us humans. Any way on a lighter note im off out with said dog for a trot happy weekend everyone .................. be safe out there dont fly Malaysia air Would you fly with Singapore Airlines to Europe or British Airways to UK? They all, up to a few hours ago, flew over the same place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfie Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Would you fly with Singapore Airlines to Europe or British Airways to UK? They all, up to a few hours ago, flew over the same place. To be perfectly honest I would have to give it a lot of thought. I do understand the saying " wrong place wrong time". It is a truly sad sad time. After listening to news 24 I do think the culprits are absolutely s"£$%g themselves that is if the recording is true. Even if they are brought to justice its no comfort to the families of the people who died on board that plane. A loss of life is tragic in any circumstance for the loved ones left behind. As always there the whole truth will never be told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveakaginge Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Shocking news.......My wife is flying back to the UK today, and is bricking it. I hate flying at the best of times, let alone seeing this sort of thing....sad news indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 From reading around, it seems like the Rebals (Russians) were trying to shoot a Ukrainian cargo plane. Quite a few other airlines were avoiding the area. A lot of the passengers were coming to Aus, for an AIDS conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfie Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 On the news it said there was a president of a country on board not named as yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfie Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Shocking news.......My wife is flying back to the UK today, and is bricking it. I hate flying at the best of times, let alone seeing this sort of thing....sad news indeed. Dave thats understandable I think anyone would be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibbs Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Apparently they were heading further south, but were diverted north due to a storm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsM Posted July 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Sky news reported that 6 from the UK were on board. I know it was an act of terrorism, but airlines had been advised to avoid that area due to the ongoing conflict. So MA put cost before safety imo. Bad press twice in a year doesnt fill me with confidence to fly with them - even if it was outwith their control.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou8670 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Would you fly with Singapore Airlines to Europe or British Airways to UK? They all, up to a few hours ago, flew over the same place. When we flew here with Singapore Airlines I remember being surprised the plane had flown over the Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plimthing Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) Sky news reported that 6 from the UK were on board. I know it was an act of terrorism, but airlines had been advised to avoid that area due to the ongoing conflict. So MA put cost before safety imo. Bad press twice in a year doesnt fill me with confidence to fly with them - even if it was outwith their control.... The airlines were given the ok above a certain altitude to fly over Ukraine as the threat was more from smaller shoulder fired missiles which don't go too high. Unfortunatley it looks like someone fired a very sophisticated truck mounted radar guided missile which only military aircraft would have been able to see or do anything about it. I really doubt they would have flown directly over just to save a few thousand bucks worth of fuel. They were in the right place at the wrong time being mistaken by a bunch of amatuer soldiers who know very little about what they have done. Its just very sad that it is the same airline that suffered an aircrash earlier in the year. Hopefully after the initial knee jerk reactions people will see that despite these incidents they are a very capable, professional and safe airline who have lost 30 of its staff within 6 months through no fault of their own. Edited July 18, 2014 by Plimthing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plimthing Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 When we flew here with Singapore Airlines I remember being surprised the plane had flown over the Ukraine. Everyone who flies with emirates from UK to Dubai flies over all of Iraq and directly over baghdad or at least 1 of its major cities and probably doesnt think about it. I guess you would expect this kind of thing over there rather than here..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou8670 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) Everyone who flies with emirates from UK to Dubai flies over all of Iraq and directly over baghdad or at least 1 of its major cities and probably doesnt think about it. I guess you would expect this kind of thing over there rather than here..... Tbh Plimthing I'd have been surprised about that too when there was a war and I'd be surprised again now that things have escalated again. Edited July 18, 2014 by Lou8670 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnachivers Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 We have booked with Singapore Airlines to come over....considering cancelling and rebooking!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou8670 Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 We have booked with Singapore Airlines to come over....considering cancelling and rebooking!!! Why Donna? Singapore Airlines have an excellent record and I doubt airlines will be flying giver the Ukraine now this has happened. I'm sure you'll be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aligard Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 So very sad news in a ever increasing mad world. It won't put me off flying though, got more chance of a car accident on the way to the airport. In fact it will be amazing if the plane gets off the ground with the amount of luggage we are going to have !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsM Posted July 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 The airlines were given the ok above a certain altitude to fly over Ukraine as the threat was more from smaller shoulder fired missiles which don't go too high. Unfortunatley it looks like someone fired a very sophisticated truck mounted radar guided missile which only military aircraft would have been able to see or do anything about it. I really doubt they would have flown directly over just to save a few thousand bucks worth of fuel. They were in the right place at the wrong time being mistaken by a bunch of amatuer soldiers who know very little about what they have done. Its just very sad that it is the same airline that suffered an aircrash earlier in the year. Hopefully after the initial knee jerk reactions people will see that despite these incidents they are a very capable, professional and safe airline who have lost 30 of its staff within 6 months through no fault of their own. Yeah, I just spotted the altitude in one of the news reports. So I take the comment back. Its such sad news for everyone involved - my thoughts go out to them. I still think that even though it's no fault of their own, people may avoid them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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