Perth is a dumb blond - good to look at but no substance !!

[portlaunay]

  darren miles said:

The problem with Perth poms is no one says anything objective ,perth is a nice place but and there is some big but's it's not perfect ,we come over to live the so called Aussie dream which is portrayed on TV back home but they never tell the negatives ie working long hrs,expensive,lack of culture,nothing open ie restaurants after 9.30pm if your lucky,arrogant locals with no manners !!,good quality clothes,fashion.we tried to fit in to this lifestyle but it's not for us I said ,I like smart clothes and nice holidays and having a nice car which don't cost a fortune to buy these things are not here fact, so when you come over with rose tinted glasses remember what I have said !!! Good luck ! P.S go on poms in Oz they have a page why people go back to the uk maybe people should read this before they come out it might open there eyes up a little before you spend you life savings getting out here !!!!

 

I have to disagree, I think people on here are objective, it's just that a great many have positive things to say. Often people do come on and grumble about different aspects of life here and the community generally rallies around to provide support and advice. Were this not an open forum where different opinions could be discussed we would have deleted your thread as trolling.

 

I think you're right in that no place is perfect, undoubtedly Perth is just like any other part of the world; it works for some but not for others and wherever we choose to live we all face challenges and difficulties we manage in a variety of different ways. The difficulty I am having with your posts is that you seem to be insistent that your opinion is right, that others who disagree are not being truthful. For each of your negatives my own experience contradicts this. It is unfortunate that you have encountered elements of life you find disagreeable but not everyone who lives in Perth will work long hours or meet arrogant locals, I don't find life here particularly expensive and simply typing the word 'fact' at the end of a sentence doesn't make it so.

 

It's good to have differing opinions but that opinion is only objective if it is centred upon you and your experience, I think some may have taken offence because some of the things you have said (typed), imply everyone's experience will be the same as yours.

[FrankieB]

I totally agree with what Darren said, we have said pretty much the same thing -it's nice to look at but is vacuous. As for those who have said he can't tell people what they should think - it works both ways, there are a lot of people on here, many who have just come over or not even made the move yet, stating why you MUST come over. It's all down to who you are, where you have come from and what you desire. For me, I never really appreciated the variety available in the UK (including places, culture, food, clothes), let alone Europe. Most places you can drive to here are the same - a beach, shopping Centre and identical houses. Flights are very expensive so you are pretty much stuck unless you have a lot of money. Yes the facilities for kids are great, education not so great, in my opinion. There is no sense of community and the majority of people are rude and agressive. Never before have I experienced parents swearing in the playground, loud enough for kids to hear, or people being verbally attacked for no reason. Like I say, it's all down to personal opinion but no-one should be criticized for expressing their opinion, even if it is something you don't want to hear.

[Akasully2]

  darren miles said:

I've been here 3 years now and have to say I am bored ****less now,we come here on holiday first before we made the move we was from Bromley in Kent , the first year here was like a holiday we went every where and was busy buying everything for the house ( expensive ), the second year was right what's next? Then you start to get homesick now and then because the first year we had seen most of wa what was worth seeing,and everything is expensive so unless you earn good money forget it , they say the weathers lovely the beachs are pretty yeah they are but it's not everything because half the time your at work all the hours god give you and try finding a beach bar ??? With some music??? ,we are now moving back to the uk good luck to anyone moving here your need it I guarantee after 3 years your know what I am talking about. Perth is like a dumb blond-good to look at but no substance

 

Just out of interest, what type of visa did you come over on? Did it offer permanent residency and/or tie you to one area? Have you considered living in another part of Oz? If an option, did you not want to try for citizenship after just one more year? Keep your options open for later?

 

A general question to more experienced PP members; does the rest of Oz offer a vastly different experience to Perth? Can other places be so different/'less boring'?

Edited August 2, 2014 by Akasully2

[Weedolly]

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There is no sense of community and the majority of people are rude and agressive. Never before have I experienced parents swearing in the playground' date=' loud enough for kids to hear, or people being verbally attacked for no reason. Like I say, it's all down to personal opinion but no-one should be criticized for expressing their opinion, even if it is something you don't want to hear.[/quote]

 

 

 

Jeez what suburb do you live in? Not like that where I live!

 

Never seen Benefits Street or the Scheme Tv shows? Looks like its not only Perth you would find people like that in - oh they are both in the UK!

Edited August 2, 2014 by Weedolly

[FrankieB]

  Weedolly said:

Jeez what suburb do you live in? Not like that where I live!

 

Never seen Benefits Street or the Scheme Tv shows? Looks like its not only Perth you would find people like that in - oh they are both in the UK!

 

Like I say, it depends where you come from. If you come from Benefit St then yes you would fit right in and think it was amazing.

[Weedolly]

  FrankieB said:

Like I say, it depends where you come from. If you come from Benefit St then yes you would fit right in and think it was amazing.

No I certainly dont and obviously I have picked a decent area to live in, not all Perth is as how you describe it the same as the UK is not all the same as Benefits Street! Certain areas are like little Britian here you probably live in one of them? Did the people swearing have a UK accent?

[FrankieB]

  Weedolly said:

No I certainly dont and obviously I have picked a decent area to live in, not all Perth is as how you describe it the same as the UK is not all the same as Benefits Street! Certain areas are like little Britian here you probably live in one of them? Did the people swearing have a UK accent?

 

No, the rude and aggressive people I am referring to were Australian. That is my experience, I am merely trying to express a balanced view. Obviously you are entitled to do the same, but please don't shoot me down for mine. It is lived experience.

[Weedolly]

  FrankieB said:

No, the rude and aggressive people I am referring to were Australian. That is my experience, I am merely trying to express a balanced view. Obviously you are entitled to do the same, but please don't shoot me down for mine. It is lived experience.

Thats ok but please dont generalise, just because you live in an area like that not all of Perth is which is the impression you were trying to give!

[ImmilBees]

To be honest I'm glad I've read this and the opinions on it. We were looking to come to WA, we were torn between East and west literally. We decided to start with that WA was for us but after researching "things to do" we felt there was very little.

 

then the isolation worried us, you're a flight from the other cities whereas Melbourne, Sydney etc seemed more in reach from the Gold Coast. So after talking to friends out there we've gone for the Gold Coast.

 

so thank you your thread reaffirmed the worries we had about Perth, and we're happy with our change of location

[elfie]

  darren miles said:

I've been here 3 years now and have to say I am bored ****less now,we come here on holiday first before we made the move we was from Bromley in Kent , the first year here was like a holiday we went every where and was busy buying everything for the house ( expensive ), the second year was right what's next? Then you start to get homesick now and then because the first year we had seen most of wa what was worth seeing,and everything is expensive so unless you earn good money forget it , they say the weathers lovely the beachs are pretty yeah they are but it's not everything because half the time your at work all the hours god give you and try finding a beach bar ??? With some music??? ,we are now moving back to the uk good luck to anyone moving here your need it I guarantee after 3 years your know what I am talking about. Perth is like a dumb blond-good to look at but no substance

 

 

Totally understand where you are coming from. They say it takes 2 years to get a feel for the place. Been here 2 years still not got a feel for it. Love being by the sea etc etc. But a beach is a beach is a beach. I do miss our life in the UK make no bones about never have this life is different and for now for us. Also understand when you say if your negative about Perth you get jumped on not just on Perth poms - no one more negative than me about it. Perth is a place of over inflated prices on every thing and egos from my perspective. It is as someone says not for everyone and everyone has a right to put down in writing and verbally what they say and feel for something etc. Good on you for admitting that Perth is not for you. A lot of people soldier on and dont mention it. Wish you all the luck in the world returning back to the UK.

[glenvin]

  Weedolly said:

Thats ok but please dont generalise, just because you live in an area like that not all of Perth is which is the impression you were trying to give!

 

FrankieB

I totally agree with you. I live in a totally decent suburb surrounded by multi million dollar properties ( no I don't live in one of those) and can still hear some choice language in shops, bars and even restaurants. To insinuate that you probably live in a rough area is such a stupid and childish thing to say. I don't care where you live in WA you are going to find good and bad everywhere as you do in the UK. I work on the mines and I have come across some of the most foul mouthed idiots you could wish to meet and also some of the nicest people well mannered men who treat woman like myself like a lady. The trouble I find on this forum is some individuals don't like you to be critical of Perth, its people or anything that puts it in a bad light. This forum is here to help people coming over and whether that feedback is good or bad it should be talked about and discussed. I remember a forum I was on years ago and a lady posted that she was returning to the UK as everyone here was a country bumpkin, no one drove BMW's just Utes and it wasn't like Italy at all ??????????????????? where the hell did she think she was coming too. So my point is yes love Perth, Love WA but don't slag people off if their opinion is different to your's and also in saying this, if you are going back to the UK please put constructive comments regarding why you are returning and I'm sure that will be of great help to anyone thinking of moving here. Now its nearly wine o'clock so i'm off to partake in one or two

[STEVE P]

I can relate to your feelings, we have been here a similar time and it isn't getting easier. It is nice to come on holiday, especially when friends are here but living / working is different and easy to miss the familiarity of home. The big question is where were you happier if thinking of going home and Am I happy now if thinking of coming to Aus'

[verystormy]

As one of the mods, I disagree strongly with the idea that Perth is sugar coated on here or that negative views are put down. Far from it. In fact the main reason I was asked to become a mod was because at the time I was strongly in favor of going back to the UK and didn't like Perth. That view changed over the years.

 

Yes, Perth has it's negatives and there are things I don't like and things I miss from the UK. If you go through my posts you will find lots of posts telling people to err on caution with their idea of moving here and also warning against rose tinted glasses. But you will also find plenty of positive posts. The reason is that Perth is a good city. But it, like any other city in the UK or Oz has it's negatives.

[ali]

I think the majority of people do post realistic views of living in WA. I enjoy living here, I'm no worse off than when I was in the UK and my lifestyle is very comparable, it hasn't stopped us doing the things we enjoy or visiting places overseas. Is it perfect? Far from it ... and I can't recall ever painting that picture of it being so (either here or PIO), but for us (and I speak only for myself) the impact.

of any negatives have not made us want to return.

 

The mods and admin of PP realise that everyone is going to have a different experience, and those personal experiences may contradict those expressed by others - doesn't make either of them wrong, but I personally struggle with generalisations e.g. Australian's are bad drivers ... I'm sure there are some, but when I'm driving, I don't have a clue of what nationality the person is driving in front of me is. Similarly, I have met some rude people - of lots of nationalities, but equally, some lovely people from those very same nationalities. It's horses for courses and to my thinking life is way too short to be unhappy for a prolonged period of time if the remedy is something that is within your control.

[Arwen]

I also get cross with the generalisations. Some things you clearly don't know about until you get here such as whether you like the clothes etc. However when people say stuff about not having Europe on your doorstep I think to myself no **** sherlock. Surely this was obvious before you came. Surely you could look at a map/internet and see that it wasn't cheap and convenient and easy to leave Perth. There are things that irritate but the same could be said about living anywhere in the world.

[7cdb]

Anyhows stop whinging like Poms

 

I will happily swap Europe for Bali and Asia for a while. France is full of French people,Italy is crazy,Spain is full of Expats and skint,Germany well just NO. As for PIO it's hilarious on there talk about clicky! It makes this place look almost impartial

[cocolevi]

  ImmilBees said:

To be honest I'm glad I've read this and the opinions on it. We were looking to come to WA, we were torn between East and west literally. We decided to start with that WA was for us but after researching "things to do" we felt there was very little.

 

then the isolation worried us, you're a flight from the other cities whereas Melbourne, Sydney etc seemed more in reach from the Gold Coast. So after talking to friends out there we've gone for the Gold Coast.

 

so thank you your thread reaffirmed the worries we had about Perth, and we're happy with our change of location

We originally wanted to go to Brisbane, we even went for 3 weeks and we loved it and the Gold Coast our visa is determing where we are going, but were ok with that so I just wanted to say Good luck in the Gold Coast it's a beautiful place

Toni x

[JasonM]

Darren have to say your post did came across to me as a bit bitter, but saying that all things in text can be taken different ways by different people and depending on the mood you are in when you read something is what you can sometimes take from it. I am coming to WA (hopefully) with the knowledge that we are going to be worse off money wise by a hell of a lot, however i have 2 young girls and my decision is based on them and me needed to spend more time with them(and i have always wanted to move to Australia even before wanted down under). As they get older this may well change, however just seeing the state of the UK at the moment i think it will surprise you when you do come back. I have friends who have been back from Adelaide and they hate it back here and are saving to move back out. Again that may not be the same for everyone. I think if it is something you want to do, then try it. (granted an expensive experience) Not everyone is going to have the same experience as anyone else on PP, and your lives and experiences can be what you put into it or take out of it (with a little good or bad luck along the way). Regards the parks i live in a nice market town in the UK and we have a local park that is littered with rubbish and has young children and early teens and what comes out of their mouths my mum would have washed my mouth out with soap, and some of the parents God help me. You get all sorts in all places and that will never change, don't think you will ever find Utopia anywhere. Good luck on coming back to the UK and thank you for sharing your experiences.

[Plimthing]

WOW! Just got in from work, jumped on the old tinternet and this is what greets me.

Firstly, regarding the 'don't like it go home' statement, please, come round my house with the huge amount of cash i am bonded to the 'flying kangaroos' for and i will book my business class flight right there and then. Some of us cannot just 'go back' if we don't like it, we are financially stuck here, for another 12 months, others maybe longer. In that time we will have to start paying for our kids to go to school, which was bought in to WA as our container was floating through the suez canal.

In my experience and opinion ( i am prepared to be shot down on this one, but what the heck) a lot (not all) of people who love the place and rant about how great it is, generally sit on their back side sipping the nice stuff while some one else pulls the coin in, working extra long hours, often away from home and family. Also these people are the ones who highlight the 'better lifestyle' that, even after questioning, fail to quantify what 'lifestyle' they refer to and who its better for, them or the poor bugger working 24 hours a day down a mine, in an office, in a truck.... apologies for all the trades/professions missed out. You may have a nice bank account but you can't buy that time back, it's gone.

Overpriced, i think we can all agree on that, but surely we all did a bit of research before coming out here?? 'No substance' yep i'm feeling that too, however, i must admit i am tempted to move to a different suburb for my last 12 months, somewhere with prefeably fewer/no brits. Take that as you may, but i don't think you can fully grasp a culture when you are surrounded by the people you have just moved/ran away from. A beach is a beach is a beach, seen one seen them all, no matter how nice or secluded they may be they are where the land meets the sea and holds many a beautiful sight and creature. Now we take it for granted, we know where it is, exactly the same as we all knew where the cotsolds were, the Yorkshire dales, scottish highlands, welsh mountains and the moors of cornwall and i bet not many people took the time to go there because it was boring. What i'd give to see a bit of rolling green countryside in my rental garden/beach....anyway, i digress.

Strangely enough i was having one of my 'better' days today before reading this, and i agree with so many points, however after having the wind taken out my sails with recent events and anniversary's coming up of fallen people, i cannot be bothered to shout anymore.

I must correct the OP in one thing, Australia is not a dumb blonde. Australia is dirty prostitute, if you pay enough you can do all the things you can't do at home.

 

Be nice people, youre only round here once.

[Guest Guest6235]

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[Charlieboy]

Thought I would add my point of view! I do find the statement from the OP 'in the first year we went everywhere...' Interesting, was that everywhere in Perth?....everywhere in WA?....everywhere in OZ?... And still found it boring??? I came from a big city in the Uk, possibly along the size of Perth, I know if I'd spent a year going 'everywhere' in that city I would have been bored after a year!!! But it being a city within a country, I did venture out of that city and found other things to alleviate the boredom, similar to here really, I've extensively travelled WA and have to say I defy anyone to say it's boring, it's truly amazing but vast, you have to be prepared to travel long journeys to get to these stunning places but i suppose that could possibly a little ..... Boring??!!

Edited August 2, 2014 by Charlieboy
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[Lou2003]

Interesting post. I moved to Australia from the UK 22 years ago, and have lived in Perth for 15 years. There are still things I miss about England, and always will. Personally, Perth suits us pretty well - I'm now married to an Aussie and have 2 Aussie-born children. It is a clean and relatively safe, family-friendly environment. My husband is from Sydney and we've been over there twice, and if we didn't have the kids, I would prefer to move over there. However, the kids are settled in school with friends and I don't want to disrupt their lives. Yes, I do think Perth can be a bit on the boring side, which is why I would prefer to go to Sydney, but I think any place is what you make it. We get out and about as much as possible. My main problem is the heat! I really cannot tolerate anything over 30 degrees, so I really suffer through summer.

[verystormy]

Can you give me a single post where someone has been criticized for giving a bad view of Perth? I have seen it attempted, but are normally deleted by us pretty quick.

 

  glenvin said:

FrankieB

I totally agree with you. I live in a totally decent suburb surrounded by multi million dollar properties ( no I don't live in one of those) and can still hear some choice language in shops, bars and even restaurants. To insinuate that you probably live in a rough area is such a stupid and childish thing to say. I don't care where you live in WA you are going to find good and bad everywhere as you do in the UK. I work on the mines and I have come across some of the most foul mouthed idiots you could wish to meet and also some of the nicest people well mannered men who treat woman like myself like a lady. The trouble I find on this forum is some individuals don't like you to be critical of Perth, its people or anything that puts it in a bad light. This forum is here to help people coming over and whether that feedback is good or bad it should be talked about and discussed. I remember a forum I was on years ago and a lady posted that she was returning to the UK as everyone here was a country bumpkin, no one drove BMW's just Utes and it wasn't like Italy at all ??????????????????? where the hell did she think she was coming too. So my point is yes love Perth, Love WA but don't slag people off if their opinion is different to your's and also in saying this, if you are going back to the UK please put constructive comments regarding why you are returning and I'm sure that will be of great help to anyone thinking of moving here. Now its nearly wine o'clock so i'm off to partake in one or two

[Zebradeb]

This is an interesting post. For those reading it you will gauge these responses and come to your own conclusion. That is what PP and all of your research is about.

 

There will be good and bad where ever you choose to live. That's the point though eh? Choice. That can only be made by you, given your own individual dynamic.

 

I think that the OP has opened an interesting thread, and it is important for readers to be aware that everything is not always a bed of roses. Equally, as a reader, you are able to

make your own choice and research to see what is best for you.

 

All the best to all, stayers, goers, comers and leavers. Do what is best for you.

[Charlieboy]

  Zebradeb said:

This is an interesting post. For those reading it you will gauge these responses and come to your own conclusion. That is what PP and all of your research is about.

 

There will be good and bad where ever you choose to live. That's the point though eh? Choice. That can only be made by you, given your own individual dynamic.

 

I think that the OP has opened an interesting thread, and it is important for readers to be aware that everything is not always a bed of roses. Equally, as a reader, you are able to

make your own choice and research to see what is best for you.

 

All the best to all, stayers, goers, comers and leavers. Do what is best for you.

 

Totally agree and very we'll put! I have a good life here and am very happy, but I knew someone who lasted 8 weeks and to be honest in their circumstances and experiences I'd have gone home too, everyone has different experiences, expectations, circumstances and I totally get that.