rpakey Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Used a skilled migration visa with a state sponsor, then NOT moved to that state? As I understand it, it is only a moral obligation to live and work there and as it is still a federal visa, you are still allowed to live where you want! Please let me know, seems too good to be true! Thank you Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa VCH Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Hi Richard I'm no expert, but I have noticed people mentioning that you have to notify WA of any changes of address. Also I 'heard' somewhere that they send out regular questionnaires checking on where you are living and working. It's only two years, then you could live where you like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpakey Posted January 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Well...I'm on the SOL for Southern Australia, but want to come to Perth WA only, I am being told its only a legal obligation to live in SA, but it would be nice to hear from someone that has done this already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akasully2 Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) If you did this intentionally, don't you think it would be a betrayal of trust and their faith in you. They are offering you a fantastic opportunity and then to deliberately abuse that gift seems wrong. So many people would give their right hand to get to Oz. If however, through a lack of being unable to find a job after a very good stint here and with evidence of trying, then they may be looked at differently. Maybe you should contact the state and get written permission for evidence. You certainly do have to register once you arrive and keep them updated if you move. If and when you later apply for citizenship and you have to jump through no doubt another endless list of hurdles to prove your worth, I would hate to think that it would be jeopardised by a breech of an honourable, gentlemen's agreement four years earlier. I certainly wouldn't want to risk it. Would you? Edited January 13, 2015 by Akasully2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopyLauren Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) Used a skilled migration visa with a state sponsor, then NOT moved to that state?As I understand it, it is only a moral obligation to live and work there and as it is still a federal visa, you are still allowed to live where you want! Please let me know, seems too good to be true! Thank you Richard If I am right, My agent mentioned this to us as an option, when I was struggling to pass the Bloody IELTS. She said it was only a moral obligation and that it did not matter where you settled. She said you may get some emails from that state, asking how you are getting on. But otherwise, I think you are correct. i believe some states are a lot quicker than others at issuing visa's also, so worth looking at which, so you can get the quickest option if necessary.( think it may have been SA currently??) In response to last message. I would have a hard time with this one personally, I hate doing things that can be deemed wrong in some eyes/views. But I also think, that if you intend to work hard and your intentions are all good, it seems a shame to not be allowed to follow your goal, I think they do make it very difficult for good/ordinary folk to get into to OZ, it all seems a bit extreme to me at times. But I am not sure how I would cope getting emails and then possibly having to tell porky's as the previous messages suggest. Difficult one. Edited January 13, 2015 by LoopyLauren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest13452 Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 From what I've seen, the NT is actually refusing 190s and instead offering 489s, which DO require you to live for 2 years and work for one in the NT before giving you PR and the freedom to move somewhere else. I wouldn't be surprised if other states start to do something similar or if it becomes more enforceable. At the moment there is no legal obligation to live in the state that sponsored you for the 190 but damn... I would feel like a cheat. What about moral obligations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpakey Posted January 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Thanks for these replies I will explore the opportunities in SA, its good to know I have other options if things dont work out (I have many friends in WA!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verystormy Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 A 190 has only a moral obligation. A 489 has a legal obligation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 From what I've seen, the NT is actually refusing 190s and instead offering 489s, which DO require you to live for 2 years and work for one in the NT before giving you PR and the freedom to move somewhere else. I wouldn't be surprised if other states start to do something similar or if it becomes more enforceable. At the moment there is no legal obligation to live in the state that sponsored you for the 190 but damn... I would feel like a cheat. What about moral obligations? I think it might only be a matter of time before other states follow and immigration decide to close this loop hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyLeB Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 The nomination agreement is a moral obligation as no condition on visa to remain or even visit the state. But applying for sponsorship when you never have any intention of living in the state when applying for the visa could be seen as giving false or misleading information on your application. Never seen that happen, majority of people who decide to go to different state happens after the visa has been granted. Also the 489 does have a condition to live and work in regional Australia, it also does not specify the state which must be lived in, to meet the requirements of 887, so can also change States as long as stay within the postcodes allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy little Vegemite Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 I have a friend who lived in a different state to the one that they had sponsorship for as they had family there, and as far as I know didn't have any problems as a result of this. How the story would have panned out when it came time to apply for permanent residency or citizenship or whatever comes next I don't know as it didn't work out for them and they went back to the UK. Karma, some might say, but we all have our own reasons for doing what we do and only you know how you would feel about doing this... Good luck whatever you decide! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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