Registered Nurse: IELTS requirement?

[VJ Ca]

Hi,

 

My wife has a BA in Business and also a BSc in Adult Nursing both from British Universities. Is she still required to sit the IELTS?

 

Thanks.

[ali]

I think it's required for the ANMAC skills assessment

[shelz]

Hi,

 

My wife has a BA in Business and also a BSc in Adult Nursing both from British Universities. Is she still required to sit the IELTS?

 

Thanks.

 

Depends if she is doing a modified skills assessment or not with ANMAC and also how many points she/you have as a main applicant for the visa.

 

Have you checked if you need additional points for the visa?

[VJ Ca]

Thanks for replying.

 

She has 75 points. Can you explain more about a modified skills assessment?

[VJ Ca]

I noticed you are now registered with APHRA. Were you sponsored and if yes, who sponsored you? My wife and I think that this might be a feasible option.

[verystormy]

I noticed you are now registered with APHRA. Were you sponsored and if yes, who sponsored you? My wife and I think that this might be a feasible option.

 

First, I would have your points checked by a proffessional. 75 would be unusually high. If you over claim a single point, you can have your visa refused. An expensive mistake!

 

Second, I would avoid sponsored visas. Yes, the business sponsoring picks up the visa bill. But, it is only a temporary visa. It is tied to the job - lose it and you only have 90 days to find another visa. In the past, not such a big issue for medical professionals, but with the government warning of major cuts to health, I would be careful.

 

Third, if you have children, temporary residents are required to pay $4000 a year in school fees if you have childfen.

 

Fourth. Partners of temporary visa holders can struggle to get work.

[VJ Ca]

My wife was thinking about using Healthcare Australia to look for work. They spoke about getting a PR visa.

 

Would cuts in health care by the Australian Government impact on nursing in the private sector? Are you suggesting a reduction in visas being issued to nurses?

[verystormy]

Impossible to know how funding cuts will play out for the private sector, ar it depends on how they implement the cuts. We won't know until May when the budget occurs.

 

Likewise, there is never any guaruntee of how things will play out in the future for any occupation. Immi change things every year at the end of June.

[shelz]

Thanks for replying.

 

She has 75 points. Can you explain more about a modified skills assessment?

 

As verystormy advised unusual to have 75 points without ilets.

 

I have 75 but gained 20 by getting maximum points on english test, could u provide a breakdown of what points u feel she has? Modified skills assessment can be done if she got her AHPRA registration first before her skills assessment - a bit cheaper too. I have not gone for the sponsored route - I feel when u are moving kids around the world that the security of a 189 visa is much more preferable than sponsorship.

 

Hope that helps :-)

[VJ Ca]

Hi folks,

 

I feel a little bit silly now as I used an online assessment calculator to calculate my wife's points and it evidently came back inflated. To be honest, I tried different ones and they returned different scores.

 

I have since looked at the Skilled Independent Visa section and I should have looked here first rather than using money making websites. This was a school boy error.

 

I will give you a breakdown of the points below:

 

Age: 25 points

English: 10 points (To be tested)

Skilled Employment: 15 points

Qualifications: 15 points

Other: 5 points (partner skills)

 

Total: 70 points

 

Shelz, how did you find the english test? Did you pass first time? I would really appreciate any tips you have to pass the test and I will pass them onto my wife.

 

Do you think it would be easier for me to apply for 189 visa using my occupation? I am a Special Education teacher and it is an occupation in demand. Please see my points score below:

 

Age: 25 points

English (Competent and not tested): 0 points

Skilled Employment: 15 points

Qualifications: 15 points

Other: 10 points (PGCE Secondary, PGCE Education Support and PGCE Leadership and Management in Education)

 

Total: 65 points

 

What do you think?

 

Sorry about all the questions.

[shelz]

Hi folks,

 

I feel a little bit silly now as I used an online assessment calculator to calculate my wife's points and it evidently came back inflated. To be honest, I tried different ones and they returned different scores.

 

I have since looked at the Skilled Independent Visa section and I should have looked here first rather than using money making websites. This was a school boy error. (Don't worry - there is just lots and lots of research to do - its a long process for a 189 visa, this forum has been great for me)

 

I will give you a breakdown of the points below:

 

Age: 25 points

English: 10 points (To be tested)

Skilled Employment: 15 points

Qualifications: 15 points

Other: 5 points (partner skills) - (are partner skills on the SOL list for Australia?)

 

Total: 70 points

 

Shelz, how did you find the english test? Did you pass first time? I would really appreciate any tips you have to pass the test and I will pass them onto my wife. (TBH I was panicking so much before the English test and did lots of practice questions online before hand, the writing exam was difficult i I struggled with the timing and the structure but managed to get an 8 - passed first time - but wasn't expecting too!)

Do you think it would be easier for me to apply for 189 visa using my occupation? I am a Special Education teacher and it is an occupation in demand. Please see my points score below: (I am not sure who would be best to apply as the main applicant as I only know what I needed to do for the nursing side of things - so couldn't advise but who ever applies will need a skills assessment.)

 

Age: 25 points

English (Competent and not tested): 0 points

Skilled Employment: 15 points

Qualifications: 15 points

Other: 10 points (PGCE Secondary, PGCE Education Support and PGCE Leadership and Management in Education) (Im not sure if you would get an additional 10 points for additional qualifications - I THINK they just go wih your highest level of qualification unless additional Australia training?? dont quote me)

 

Total: 65 points

 

What do you think? Sounds like you are at the beginning of the process and might be worth a chat with the Mrs - it has took us over 2 years to get to this stage and have had a month by month plan of what we need to get done towards the AHPRA registration, skills assessment, English test, gathering all the evidence and CPD evidence then having allsorts checked and signed by a magistrate for verification, medicals, police checks - you need to be sure that your family unit definately want to make the move - I have had lots of help on here and spent many hours, days and weeks reading other peoples posts on here for research. If you want to do it you can but just be minful how slow the process can be, I think it would have taken us shorter if I was rich but we had to save for each stage of the process and still keep a decent standard of living here too)

 

Sorry about all the questions.

Hope this helps a little? :-)

[VJ Ca]

Thank you for your reply Shelz.

 

We are both 37 and I am 38 soon; I am fearful that time is running out for us both. I think the 189 visa might take too long?

 

My wife contacted Healthcare Australia and they have suggested that they may be able to offer a 4-year 457 visa. She would need to work in the same hospital for four years but would have a choice of hospitals prior to making her decision. She was then informed that she could then apply for PR visa after one year. Would this not be a better option?

 

My head hurts! lol

[benj1980]

Took me 8/9 months to get my 189 and I'm a teacher.I don't understand where you had acquired 10 points for PGCE's? I have a MEd and there's nothing extra! I think you would need to complete IELTS or the new tests.

[shelz]

Thank you for your reply Shelz.

 

We are both 37 and I am 38 soon; I am fearful that time is running out for us both. I think the 189 visa might take too long?

 

My wife contacted Healthcare Australia and they have suggested that they may be able to offer a 4-year 457 visa. She would need to work in the same hospital for four years but would have a choice of hospitals prior to making her decision. She was then informed that she could then apply for PR visa after one year. Would this not be a better option?

 

My head hurts! lol

 

Im think anyone can apply for a 189 visa if they are under 50 years old. The sponsored route i guess would be the quickest and cheapest if you want to get out there as soon as possible. Do you have any little ones that are dependent on you?

 

I guess it is a personal choice - for me i was worried that I would be tied to the same employer even if i didn't like the work; that if we wanted to stay permanently then we would still have to go through the 189 visa process, the possible problem of stability if they made me redundant, the costs of education fo my children and if we loved it in Australia and we didnt get approved for a 189 then it would be my children that suffered mainly after adapting to different schools and area. I wanted the decision to stay in Oz or leave to be my choice - not an employers.

 

They of course are my reasons and you will need to have a think what is best for your family :-)

 

Lots of thinking to do

[VJ Ca]

Took me 8/9 months to get my 189 and I'm a teacher.I don't understand where you had acquired 10 points for PGCE's? I have a MEd and there's nothing extra! I think you would need to complete IELTS or the new tests.

 

 

"Any other qualification

You can receive 10 points for any other qualification or award which is recognised as suitable for your nominated occupation in your skills assessment by the relevant assessing authority."

https://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/189.aspx

 

I think I misread the Dept of Immigration website benji1980.

 

What do you teach benji1980? Did you get full registration okay? Do you have a job lined up?

 

Sorry about all the questions.

[VJ Ca]

Im think anyone can apply for a 189 visa if they are under 50 years old. The sponsored route i guess would be the quickest and cheapest if you want to get out there as soon as possible. Do you have any little ones that are dependent on you?

 

I guess it is a personal choice - for me i was worried that I would be tied to the same employer even if i didn't like the work; that if we wanted to stay permanently then we would still have to go through the 189 visa process, the possible problem of stability if they made me redundant, the costs of education fo my children and if we loved it in Australia and we didnt get approved for a 189 then it would be my children that suffered mainly after adapting to different schools and area. I wanted the decision to stay in Oz or leave to be my choice - not an employers.

 

They of course are my reasons and you will need to have a think what is best for your family :-)

 

Lots of thinking to do

 

My best mate and my wife's cousin both live in Perth and both arrived via 457. They managed to get their PR fairly quickly. My wife has also been talking to an old colleague who went over to WA with a 457. She now has PR.

 

We have a little boy Shelz.

 

I totally understand your thinking Shelz. It is a big risk but we are relying on Perth's need for nurses now and for the future. I am just concerned that I won't be able to get a job as a Special Education/Needs teacher.

 

Have you got a job in WA Shelz?

[benj1980]

"Any other qualification

You can receive 10 points for any other qualification or award which is recognised as suitable for your nominated occupation in your skills assessment by the relevant assessing authority."

https://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/189.aspx

 

I think I misread the Dept of Immigration website benji1980.

 

What do you teach benji1980? Did you get full registration okay? Do you have a job lined up?

 

Sorry about all the questions.

 

No worries. No job lined up, although I know a couple of teachers in WA. So I am hoping to tap into some supply work through their contacts. I will be applying for my WA registration soon to go into the pool for supply work. Hopefully I'll be available to work fairly quickly when I arrive.

 

I am SEN as well, although I also teach ICT and have previously taught Business.

[ali]

Is your degree a 4 year degree (for teaching)? - I think that is the requirement for the skills assessment for teaching.

 

I think if you have the option of going for a PR visa, this is the safest and most secure option if you are considering Australia as a long term rather than temporary move. Your employer is not bound to sponsor you to PR from a 457 visa, you would also have to fund the PR visa application yourself and also still have to have the skills assessment (if applying after one year) and if you're thinking of doing this a year after arrival you may find that it's a lot of expense when you're trying to establish yourself in a new country. Many do progress from 457 to PR - many do not. A few years ago, the public health sector actually put a freeze on supporting nurses through to PR (because of cost), a friend then had to do this herself. The freeze was lifted, but cost saving measures are often employed such as regular freezing of recruitment.

 

If your child is school age you will be required to pay fees if you are on a temporary visa (in addition to any fees the school charges).

 

Promotional opportunities may also be limited on a 457 .... with PR if you see the perfect job, you can apply and give your notice - with a 457 you have to see if an employer is willing to take over your sponsorship. I have noticed that a lot of job adverts for my own health service here in Perth are saying that preference will be given to citizens and PR holders

[verystormy]

My advice would be to speak to a good agent such as Go Matilda.

 

They will look at both of your options and advise which of you may be the best candidate. You do pay for having an agent do an application for you (about $2000 if it is simple). But, they ensure everything is correct and done as efficiently as possible. You would be amazed how many people make a simple error that results in a visa refusal and loss of the thousands in visa fees - immi do not give refunds because of a mistake.

 

The cost is also a drop in the ocean compared to the total cost in migrating and when you consider, this is one of the biggest decisions in your life and also one of the most expensive, getting proffessional advice seems to me, to be logical.

[VJ Ca]

No worries. No job lined up, although I know a couple of teachers in WA. So I am hoping to tap into some supply work through their contacts. I will be applying for my WA registration soon to go into the pool for supply work. Hopefully I'll be available to work fairly quickly when I arrive.

 

I am SEN as well, although I also teach ICT and have previously taught Business.

 

When do you head off to WA benji1980? Could you keep me posted of your progress?

 

Snap, I teach ICT but I also teach Business and various ASDAN qualifications. Can you confirm if you will get full registration straight away?

[VJ Ca]

Is your degree a 4 year degree (for teaching)? - I think that is the requirement for the skills assessment for teaching.

 

I have a BA in Business Administration (three years) and a PGCE in Secondary Education (one year).

[shelz]

My best mate and my wife's cousin both live in Perth and both arrived via 457. They managed to get their PR fairly quickly. My wife has also been talking to an old colleague who went over to WA with a 457. She now has PR.

 

We have a little boy Shelz.

 

I totally understand your thinking Shelz. It is a big risk but we are relying on Perth's need for nurses now and for the future. I am just concerned that I won't be able to get a job as a Special Education/Needs teacher.

 

Have you got a job in WA Shelz?

 

I have no job secured as yet as I have been waiting for my visa being processed. We are nearly there and have flights booked for the end of Novemeber - I have just applied for a community health nurse job from wa.gov jobs in there recruitment pool, so hopefully may hear something back soon :-) We have a little while till we fly out yet but last time I applied for a similiar job they said it was too early to be considered for the next stage. Would be nice to have a job to go too :-)

 

Ideally would like to commence employment January 2016 as we land in December.

 

I can't advise on jobs as special education/needs teacher but im sure that your skills and qualifications would stretch further than this to teach mainstream children too, not sure if they have specialist schools in WA for children with statements for emotional and behavioural needs also - I work in a few pupil referral schools and those statemented for ADHD/conduct disorders etc. I think you have a few options open to you :-)

 

You could maybe do a search of WA special schols online and email them directly to request some information when you are at the stage of considering your employment.

 

Do you think you are any closer to making a decision of what visa your family are going for?

[benj1980]

When do you head off to WA benji1980? Could you keep me posted of your progress?

 

Snap, I teach ICT but I also teach Business and various ASDAN qualifications. Can you confirm if you will get full registration straight away?

 

You don't get full registration as you need to complete 100 hours in a WA school for that I believe. So it's a provisional type, but enough to allow you to work!

[VJ Ca]

Do you think you are any closer to making a decision of what visa your family are going for?

 

I think we might go for the 189 visa but do it through my occupation. I have been inspired by all of your comments.

[cocolevi]

I have just spotted this for teachers in Oz not sure where may not even effect a lot of people for special need schools