kimmygo Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 after finding it difficult to gain enough points for residency we have decided to come over on a 457 visa. my husband is a chef, has done bar management and now works in drainage. we have flights booked for march 2016 to visit family and want to arrange interviews etc. can anybody recommend any companies or know of anyone that can help us... been trying to come over for two years, I am so ready to make the move now. thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verystormy Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 There are important things that you need to consider. First, I am guessing you are planning on coming on a tourist visa? If so, and immi believe you are here for work, you will likely find yourselves on a flight back being deported and banned. Second, are you sure you want to look at 457 - do you understand what it is? It is a temporary visa, so, you would have to do it with the thought that you will be returning. It it is tied to the employer, so if he were to lose his job, you would only have 90 days to find another willing and able (note, not every company is able to sponsor) to take on the sponsorship. A very hard axe to have over you, particularly in a slowing economy. If, you have children, then there are mandatory school fees. There are a range of other issues that you need to research. Have you spoken to a good migration agent about if there are other options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portlaunay Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 I think it's a very different climate now to when we came on our 457 and if I knew then what I know now I probably wouldn't consider this route to Perth until the economy and job prospects improve. The roles you describe aren't those that immediately spring to mind as being in demand, regardless of what the SOL says. There are a few people on here who work in catering and hospitality and I'm sure they'll be able to give a more reliable perspective though. As for drainage, I'm not exactly sure what that means and you'd have to bear in mind that even if you could find someone with a vacancy, the role must still be on the SOL to qualify for the opportunity to apply for the visa. Good luck with it, I hope it works out for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmygo Posted May 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 thank you for your reply, we do know what a 457 visa is and what the difficulties and risks are. we looked into it a few years back when my sister and her family came over on one. at that time we decided to not go down that route, but now its our only option. my husband is dyslexic and even though he is fine at reading and writing etc at his own pace he does struggle in exam situations and can only score a 7 on the eilts test. we do have a good migration agent and he cannot see another way to gain the extra points we need. I am scared of risking it all on this visa but we are more scared of regretting not giving it a go! we have always worked hard for all we have so I guess this is just going to be another time of us pulling together. but hey if anybody has any other ideas for us to try fire away, all advice appreciated. lastly we wont be working unless we have the correct visa so know worries of us being kicked out,,just visiting family and asking around whilst we are there in march. thanks again x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 thank you for your reply, we do know what a 457 visa is and what the difficulties and risks are. we looked into it a few years back when my sister and her family came over on one. at that time we decided to not go down that route, but now its our only option. my husband is dyslexic and even though he is fine at reading and writing etc at his own pace he does struggle in exam situations and can only score a 7 on the eilts test. we do have a good migration agent and he cannot see another way to gain the extra points we need. I am scared of risking it all on this visa but we are more scared of regretting not giving it a go! we have always worked hard for all we have so I guess this is just going to be another time of us pulling together. but hey if anybody has any other ideas for us to try fire away, all advice appreciated. lastly we wont be working unless we have the correct visa so know worries of us being kicked out,,just visiting family and asking around whilst we are there in march. thanks again x Hi, if your hubby is diagnosed dyslexic, I'm sure they allow additional time for the academic tests - it may be worth looking in to as an option. Good Luck - where there's a will there's a way. Have a look on seek.com for vacancies - might be worth contacting some companies or hospitals (for chef work). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnOurWay Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 thank you for your reply,we do know what a 457 visa is and what the difficulties and risks are. we looked into it a few years back when my sister and her family came over on one.at that time we decided to not go down that route, but now its our only option. my husband is dyslexic and even though he is fine at reading and writing etc at his own pace he does struggle in exam situations and can only score a 7 on the eilts test.we do have a good migration agent and he cannot see another way to gain the extra points we need. I am scared of risking it all on this visa but we are more scared of regretting not giving it a go!we have always worked hard for all we have so I guess this is just going to be another time of us pulling together.but hey if anybody has any other ideas for us to try fire away, all advice appreciated.lastly we wont be working unless we have the correct visa so know worries of us being kicked out,,just visiting family and asking around whilst we are there in march.thanks again xWe were in a very similar situation to yourselves. We had no other option than a 457 visa. Even then we were told that my wife as newly qualified midwife would need two years experience to be offered a 457 visa. With a lot of phone calls and a trip out here she was able to find someone to sponsor her, just for 12 months. We sold up back in Edinburgh and made the move just before Christmas. In many ways it was (and still is) complete madness. The three of us arrived with nothing and we knew that in a years time we may well have to go home. As it stands now, we have got a further 457 for another 3 years, and just hope we can find a way of getting PR. I would echo the points above. 457 is not an ideal way to come over. That said, for me neither is PR with neither party having a Jo to come to. The job situation here is not great right now, and its a pretty expensive place.We have one child, and although my wife's wage is better than what she'd be earning in the UK, we couldn't have survived for long just on what she earned.For us its been a journey, at times a rocky one. There are hurdles along the way. But its a lovely place and we are glad we've given it a shot. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Life Down Under Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 We were in a very similar situation to yourselves. We had no other option than a 457 visa. Even then we were told that my wife as newly qualified midwife would need two years experience to be offered a 457 visa. With a lot of phone calls and a trip out here she was able to find someone to sponsor her, just for 12 months. We sold up back in Edinburgh and made the move just before Christmas. In many ways it was (and still is) complete madness. The three of us arrived with nothing and we knew that in a years time we may well have to go home. As it stands now, we have got a further 457 for another 3 years, and just hope we can find a way of getting PR. I would echo the points above. 457 is not an ideal way to come over. That said, for me neither is PR with neither party having a Jo to come to. The job situation here is not great right now, and its a pretty expensive place.We have one child, and although my wife's wage is better than what she'd be earning in the UK, we couldn't have survived for long just on what she earned.For us its been a journey, at times a rocky one. There are hurdles along the way. But its a lovely place and we are glad we've given it a shot. Good luck Onour way, you should get your wifes employer to get her a 187 visa asap. They would have less liability as an employer with a 187 employee for 2 years than their responsibilities as a 457 sponsor, can not understand why more employers are not transferring staff to 187 once they have demonstrated that they meet the competencies for the position.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Life Down Under Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Sorry kimmygo but I agree with the other members of the forum. It is currently very hard for an unknown migrant to come over and get a 457 sponsor. You wont be able to do a work trial as a tourist??? What about you or your husband enrolling in TAFE as a student, you can work 20 hours pw to support yourself and you may have more of a chance of gaining a sponsor thereafter if you have an Aussie qual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Life Down Under Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 I agree with you portlauney, some gloomy times ahead with the job market. Most days I am hearing of contracts being canx along with 457 visas. Anyone on a 457 visa should really start the ball rolling for 187/186 visas and secure themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmygo Posted May 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 feel really deflated... I don't really know what to do now. I will keep looking into other options, keep a 457 in mind and I suppose see what happens. I get so upset over this sort of thing, silly I know but its not a little thing its our future and its hard when you know what you want but cant get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Onour way, you should get your wifes employer to get her a 187 visa asap. They would have less liability as an employer with a 187 employee for 2 years than their responsibilities as a 457 sponsor, can not understand why more employers are not transferring staff to 187 once they have demonstrated that they meet the competencies for the position.... I think because once they get PR a lot leave the companies - seen it a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Life Down Under Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 I think because once they get PR a lot leave the companies - seen it a few times. Ali, thats exactly why an employer should go for a 187. The employee then has a two year commitment to the employer, but suits both parties, the applicant gets PR and job security for 2 years (not bad in the current economic situation) and the employer gets continuity of service, win win situation. On a 457 you can just get a new sponsor and up and go, therefore wasting a lot of money for the sponsor. I have recently been lodging a lot of 187's for nurses on 457's as the employer understands that they do not want to lose their well trained staff, some of which they have gone to great expense to recruit from the UK, Philippines etc and they have also invested a lot of time/money in staff development. All parties are delighted with the 187 commitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plimthing Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 As a 457 holder who has felt the axe, i strongly recommend you think long and hard about what it entails. As soon as a company feels the economic pinch, you will without a doubt be the first one out the door. Ozzy unions will have a field day if a company is seen to lay off Australians and keep 457s on, so no matter how good you are, your always at the top of the list, no matter how many people have joined after you. Please think long and hard before you put your family through it as its a painful experience, i know first hand. Good luck with what you choose, but its a massive gamble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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