SarahL Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 Hello, I have been doing some research into registering as a teacher in WA and came across this on the TRBWA website: [h=4]If you have not taught or studied in an Australian teaching or educational context[/h]If you have neither taught nor studied in the Australian teaching and educational context, you are therefore generally considered by the Board to be unable to fully meet the Professional Standards. Until such time as such teachers either study or teach in Australia/New Zealand they will be unable to be granted registration in the Full or Provisional categories. However, overseas teachers in this position may still apply for Limited Registration or apply for Non-Practising Registration. Am I correct in assuming that you have to teach for 100 days in a WA school before you can become fully registered? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmuk Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Not wanting to hijack the thread but I am curious in the same thing. I have read a few older threads on this forum but can any advise on the latest process for teaching in WA? How does one get their 100 days experience? Can one work with the 'limited registration' option offered by TRB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDH Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Hello, I hope I can shed some light on this. I moved to Perth a week ago now and prior to this I contacted TRBWA via email and they told me to register as a Non Practising teacher - this still makes you employable meaning you can get your 100 days experience whilst being registered as a non practising teacher. So technically yes, you cannot become FULLY registered until you have evidence of a 100 days experience. I think the 100 days include relief (supply) teaching but this is from hear say, not sure if anyone can confirm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossmoyne Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) As I understand it, if your qualifications are gained out of Australia and New Zealand, you can apply for Non Practising Registration and you have 2years to gain the 100 teaching days. It used to be that any time you taught in either a contract or relief capacity counted towards your days. However I am not sure if that is still correct and I couldn't find any mention of it on the TRBWA website. It might be worth checking with them direct. You are employable as a Non Practising Registered teacher and all overseas trained teachers in WA begin their registration with the TRBWA in this category. Edited February 9, 2017 by Rossmoyne spelling!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahL Posted February 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Thank you for the replies. That doesn't sound so bad. Does anyone know if this impacts your starting salary in WA? Do you have to be fully registered before being paid the correct salary for your level of experience? Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossmoyne Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Thank you for the replies. That doesn't sound so bad. Does anyone know if this impacts your starting salary in WA? Do you have to be fully registered before being paid the correct salary for your level of experience? Thanks again. To be paid commensurate with your experience, you will need to supply the Dept of Education or your private education employer with a Statement of Service. This will need to be on official letterhead for each educational establishment you taught in and contain the following in dot points: Teaching role within the facility (eg what decimal fulltime equivalent the role was ... 0.1 to 1.0) Position held (classroom teacher if primary.... specialism if secondary) Dates employed from beginning to end in DD/MM/YYYY format Any time taken as leave without pay duriing the period you were employed with the education establishment. The above is pretty standard when you are a teacher applying for a role in Australia or New Zealand out of you normal education employment state, and especially more so for overseas trained teachers. Personal experience shows that you can start your teaching position on the lowest level of pay, but once your Statement of Service is approved, you will receive back-pay for any work performed. So I suggest that once you actually get as far as lodging an application for work along with an application ID number within WA, that you also lodge any Statements of Service you have so that your pay scale can be worked out by the Payroll Dept before you actually commence work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahL Posted February 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 To be paid commensurate with your experience, you will need to supply the Dept of Education or your private education employer with a Statement of Service. This will need to be on official letterhead for each educational establishment you taught in and contain the following in dot points: Teaching role within the facility (eg what decimal fulltime equivalent the role was ... 0.1 to 1.0) Position held (classroom teacher if primary.... specialism if secondary) Dates employed from beginning to end in DD/MM/YYYY format Any time taken as leave without pay duriing the period you were employed with the education establishment. The above is pretty standard when you are a teacher applying for a role in Australia or New Zealand out of you normal education employment state, and especially more so for overseas trained teachers. Personal experience shows that you can start your teaching position on the lowest level of pay, but once your Statement of Service is approved, you will receive back-pay for any work performed. So I suggest that once you actually get as far as lodging an application for work along with an application ID number within WA, that you also lodge any Statements of Service you have so that your pay scale can be worked out by the Payroll Dept before you actually commence work. That's really useful info. Will add it to my list of things to do if we decide to move after our recce in July. I like to be organised! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budgie Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Hello, I hope I can shed some light on this. I moved to Perth a week ago now and prior to this I contacted TRBWA via email and they told me to register as a Non Practising teacher - this still makes you employable meaning you can get your 100 days experience whilst being registered as a non practising teacher. So technically yes, you cannot become FULLY registered until you have evidence of a 100 days experience. I think the 100 days include relief (supply) teaching but this is from hear say, not sure if anyone can confirm? Hi sdh just wondering if you did your trbwa registration before you got to Perth? Are you able to do it from the uk? If so how long did it take? Also, did you have your statement of services in order to get your experience verified for your salary? How's the job market looking after being on the ground for a month or so? Sorry for all the questions just feeling a bit nervous about the job market xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDH Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) Hi sdh just wondering if you did your trbwa registration before you got to Perth? Are you able to do it from the uk? If so how long did it take? Also, did you have your statement of services in order to get your experience verified for your salary? How's the job market looking after being on the ground for a month or so? Sorry for all the questions just feeling a bit nervous about the job market xxx Hi Budgie, I filled out my online form for TRB in the UK but unfortunately due to personal reasons I didn't get a chance to have my documents certified so i did that when i got to Perth - be aware the TRB processing time is upto 10 weeks so my advice is if you have the time to do it then get it all done before you arrive in Perth. 10 weeks applies to all applicants including UK ones. I have to wait for my TRB to come through before i can even approach schools....! In terms of the job market, I know some UK teachers here who have handed in their CVs to local schools and managed to secure some relief work. As it's currently term 1 here there aren't many jobs going but relief work tends to pick up around March and then term 2 which is end of April. I have a letter from my previous school in the UK which reads like a reference letter but has my salary details on there - I haven't had to show any evidence of 'statement of services' yet but i imagine what I have will be sufficient. Sorry I can't help you much on this part! I am not sure what level/subject you teach but I get the impression they like experienced teachers here and certain subjects have a shortage of teachers - a quick online search of teaching jobs in WA will give you an idea of the current job market but remember we are in term 1 so at the moment it's really quiet. I hope this helps but feel free to ask any other questions xx Edited February 15, 2017 by SDH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossmoyne Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 Hi Budgie, I filled out my online form for TRB in the UK but unfortunately due to personal reasons I didn't get a chance to have my documents certified so i did that when i got to Perth - be aware the TRB processing time is upto 10 weeks so my advice is if you have the time to do it then get it all done before you arrive in Perth. 10 weeks applies to all applicants including UK ones. I have to wait for my TRB to come through before i can even approach schools....! In terms of the job market, I know some UK teachers here who have handed in their CVs to local schools and managed to secure some relief work. As it's currently term 1 here there aren't many jobs going but relief work tends to pick up around March and then term 2 which is end of April. I have a letter from my previous school in the UK which reads like a reference letter but has my salary details on there - I haven't had to show any evidence of 'statement of services' yet but i imagine what I have will be sufficient. Sorry I can't help you much on this part! I am not sure what level/subject you teach but I get the impression they like experienced teachers here and certain subjects have a shortage of teachers - a quick online search of teaching jobs in WA will give you an idea of the current job market but remember we are in term 1 so at the moment it's really quiet. I hope this helps but feel free to ask any other questions xx Be aware that the Department of Education are extremely picky about Statements of Service and the format I posted a few days ago is how they require the information. I have heard of many teachers who have had issues regarding this and have had to obtain the information "exactly" as requested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budgie Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 Thnaks so much everyone that helps a lot. I am a primary teacher been teaching since 1996 with a short stint in independent schools in Sydney in the early 2000's not sure if that's good or bad as I guess I'll be more expensive! I think it's a lot harder to find work in Perth but that's where my husband is from and so wants my boys to grow up there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aligard Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 Hi, pm me if you need any other info. We arrived nearly 3 years ago and I'm a teacher in an independent school. I can talk you through what I did ( if I can remember !) and I'm happy to help : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manc84 Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 I'm currently in Sydney in a great public school, however I really want to move to Perth with my OH. Has anyone met a colleague who has transferred from the NSW public system to the WA system? From what I hear, it may be easier to gain employment in the independent sector. Thanks, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Budgie Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 On 09/02/2017 at 09:14, Rossmoyne said: To be paid commensurate with your experience, you will need to supply the Dept of Education or your private education employer with a Statement of Service. This will need to be on official letterhead for each educational establishment you taught in and contain the following in dot points: Teaching role within the facility (eg what decimal fulltime equivalent the role was ... 0.1 to 1.0) Position held (classroom teacher if primary.... specialism if secondary) Dates employed from beginning to end in DD/MM/YYYY format Any time taken as leave without pay duriing the period you were employed with the education establishment. The above is pretty standard when you are a teacher applying for a role in Australia or New Zealand out of you normal education employment state, and especially more so for overseas trained teachers. Personal experience shows that you can start your teaching position on the lowest level of pay, but once your Statement of Service is approved, you will receive back-pay for any work performed. So I suggest that once you actually get as far as lodging an application for work along with an application ID number within WA, that you also lodge any Statements of Service you have so that your pay scale can be worked out by the Payroll Dept before you actually commence work. HI I've just got my teacher registration through (phew!) I'm still in the UK, I have the statements of service (I sent copies of them to the TRBWA with my other docs thinking that's who did the pay scales). Do you know if I am able to get my pay scale approved while I'm still in the UK or do I need to wait until I get there? thanks Lou x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossmoyne Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 Pay scales are enyirely up to the employing authority and have nothing to do with the Registration Board. If you are applying for government positions with the Dept of Education you would submit your Statements of Service to them when applying for an ID number. If applying for positions in the priv as te sector, each school will assess your Statements of Service. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budgie Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 On 19/05/2017 at 23:25, Rossmoyne said: Pay scales are enyirely up to the employing authority and have nothing to do with the Registration Board. If you are applying for government positions with the Dept of Education you would submit your Statements of Service to them when applying for an ID number. If applying for positions in the priv as te sector, each school will assess your Statements of Service. I see, thanks a lot that makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tems Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 Hi I just moved to WA. I submitted my application for teaching registration some weeks back and I have just been notified that I may be granted limited registration if nominated by a school. Does anyone know I can go about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossmoyne Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 On 17/12/2020 at 13:40, Tems said: Hi I just moved to WA. I submitted my application for teaching registration some weeks back and I have just been notified that I may be granted limited registration if nominated by a school. Does anyone know I can go about this? Did you apply for full registration and have your qualifications assessed? It can take up to 10 weeks sometimes for registration to come through, especially if you have gained your qualifications out of Australia. A Limited Authority to Teach (LAT) is unusual and would only be issued if a school had offered you a position as they could find no-one else for the role. Schools don't like the extra work involved in applying for a LAT, so they would have to be desperate before they go that route. Having said that it is worth a try, but you would have to approach schools direct and ask the question. What do you teach, are you primary or secondary trained? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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