Guest bec36 Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 Hello Has anyone been in the position of having a 176 state sponsorship visa & being on the skilled shortage list then when you actually get to that state there is no work? Can your state sponsorship be transfered to another state where there is work? Any info/contacts would be great. Thanks Becky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Life Down Under Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 State sponsorship is not an offer of employment, it is a way for the State Govt to attract candidates to their State. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vijnit Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Hello Has anyone been in the position of having a 176 state sponsorship visa & being on the skilled shortage list then when you actually get to that state there is no work? Can your state sponsorship be transfered to another state where there is work? Any info/contacts would be great. Thanks Becky Ok here we go.. During the last 2.5 years we have been in Adelaide (Just recently moved to Perth), i have heard various things. 1. The agreement for your 176 State sponsored visa is a "Moral" agreement - not a legal one. You have made a commitment to the state sponsoring you that you will stay and contribute to their state for a minimum of 2 years. That said, i have read of people in other forums saying that they tried looking for jobs (shown evidence) and the sponsoring state has given permission for them to transfer interstate. There are those who have just moved before the 2 years are up as well ignoring the 2 year commitment. When we arrived in Adelaide, i went to the immigration office to do the right thing and they were not even interested that we were here or bothered to contact us at all during the time. They said we simply know you are here as we stamped your passport on entry. 2.5 years later we left Adelaide and they once again didn't want to know again. So here we are in Perth just arrived 2 days ago :-) and loving it ! So the moral of the story here is - either you can just ignore the rules and move - or try your best to stick to your commitment for getting the visa in the first place. We wanted to be above board and do the right thing... in case it came and bit us on our a**es when we went for citizenship in the next couple of years. ** Disclaimer - as you need one ** I am not a registered agent providing advice - just a normal guy who is glad (and very appreciative to my sponsoring state) to have been given a PR visa in the first place Vijay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bec36 Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Hi New Life Down Under Thanks for your reply, I am aware it is not an offer of employment but we have just spent a few weeks in Perth to find that the work front has gone really flat, I'm just glad we were on a reckie to validate our visa as if we had made the "big" move then we could have had a very big shock! It's cost a small fortune to get our visa & just can't understand why certain trades are on the skilled shortage list, even the big recruitment agencies & housebuilders say there isn't much work. Just wanted to find out if there were any other options..............if not, then fingers crossed things pick up. Bec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bec36 Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Hello Vijay Thanks for your info. We also want to do everything the right & legal way & want to stick to our commitment as we are grateful to be granted the visa as not everyone gets a chance to do something like this! I just hope work picks up in Perth - unfortunately you can't live on nothing! Thanks again & enjoy Perth! Bec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Life Down Under Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Hi Bec What sort of work are you looking for? Perth is still booming in some sectors. Sometimes it just takes a while to get a break. When we first moved here 8 years ago companies were wary that we were going to be Ping Pong Poms and leave them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hassan Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Hi Vijay; Wonderful feedback BTW! Yes you are very right one should be appreciative and conform to the rules....... and moral ones are more worthy than the legal ones !!! Thanks. Hassan Ok here we go.. During the last 2.5 years we have been in Adelaide (Just recently moved to Perth), i have heard various things. 1. The agreement for your 176 State sponsored visa is a "Moral" agreement - not a legal one. You have made a commitment to the state sponsoring you that you will stay and contribute to their state for a minimum of 2 years. That said, i have read of people in other forums saying that they tried looking for jobs (shown evidence) and the sponsoring state has given permission for them to transfer interstate. There are those who have just moved before the 2 years are up as well ignoring the 2 year commitment. When we arrived in Adelaide, i went to the immigration office to do the right thing and they were not even interested that we were here or bothered to contact us at all during the time. They said we simply know you are here as we stamped your passport on entry. 2.5 years later we left Adelaide and they once again didn't want to know again. So here we are in Perth just arrived 2 days ago :-) and loving it ! So the moral of the story here is - either you can just ignore the rules and move - or try your best to stick to your commitment for getting the visa in the first place. We wanted to be above board and do the right thing... in case it came and bit us on our a**es when we went for citizenship in the next couple of years. ** Disclaimer - as you need one ** I am not a registered agent providing advice - just a normal guy who is glad (and very appreciative to my sponsoring state) to have been given a PR visa in the first place Vijay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bec36 Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Hi It's my OH that is looking for plumbing & gas work. He has made quite a few contacts from our time in Perth with small & big plumbing/gas companies & registered with some agencies, he even spent the day with one big plumbing company to see how things work in Oz compared to UK. We will keep in touch with all our contacts & see if things pick up. We were told that the mines were looking for people but that depends if you want to do FIFO not sure that's what my OH wants to do but it is another option. Well visa is now validated so have 5 years to decide & make the move. Cheers Bec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiajoemillie Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Hi bec, I am also a plumber looking to go to Perth late 2012. I've heard that things gave gone flat in the plumbing/ building trade. It's one of those dilemmas that we have, just started by sending off my skill assessments and starting to pay the cost towards vetasses etc. I think we'll probably have to do the same as you and validate the visa and look at moving when things pick up. The thing is that my work is drying up here as well, things starting to bite in Devon . The thing with FIFO is everyone says they'll do it, surely even in the mines there not enough work for everyone. Were even thinking now of renting our house out here and seeing if we can make a go of it without many savings in oz. We simply can't afford to lose our house etc if things go t up. All the best Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cozzy Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 It is a worry because its so far away and so expensive to come back to England. I too am Plumbing and heating engineer with my own company. I have friends in Perth in the industry and they say be prepared to have a period when you arrive when you are not earning. Thats a tricky one! As its a little open ended....Is it a month?? 2 months?? and so on. When you sell up Lock Stock and move the other side of the world you need to work unless youre Caked. Our situation is we have already sold our house and have the visas ready to go and then the bloody work dries up in Perth. Anyhow we are having a Reckie in March to see for ourselves what the score is. Because once i sell my company thats it! At the Mo its all we got! Trouble is we are doing well at Mo so it is a lot we are giving up (Like everyone!!). The house is nothing you can buy another...But my company has taken 15 years to build. Its a risk........One im willing to take for my childrens future even if we go backwards to move forward. Bec what did youre Hubby think of the time he spent with the company? His thoughts would be interesting to hear for someone like me in the same boat. Bye for now. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiajoemillie Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 That's my big issue as well Dave , I've had my own business for 10 years now and it's alot to lose. I don't know about selling it though , what's it worth?? I've work for alot of builders and have a large customer base but no contracts . Like you were doing it to give our children a better chance in life , but it's very concerning with being your own boss here then trying to find wotk along side every other plumber in wa. The companies over there must be sick and tired of receiving cv's , emails, calls etc from poms asking for work. Hope the pros outway the cons Cheers Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cozzy Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 If you have 10 years of contacts Ian your buisness is worth something to someone. Youre mobile number alone is worth something. Bigger companies with contracts etc generally work on 3 x Nett profit for the Last 3 years. Smaller companies like me its slightly more based on trust and what you can agree with the perspective buyer. 25% of the turnover as long as the nett profit is healthy or maybe a cash down payment and then 25% of the nett profit after the first year reducing to 10% after the second year then its theirs. And thats where the trust comes in....Youre in OZ and they say " We had a bit of a crap year im afraid!......Heres a few hundred quid!! You really need someone to keep an eye on it or someone you trust. More Stress!!!! When you start out on this journey and you get that mountain of forms to fill in its a good job you dont know whats ahead cos you would just bin the lot! But we have come so far now we gotta give it a go good or bad. Speak soon, Stay in touch. Cheers Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiajoemillie Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Thanks mate. One day Rodney will be millionaires!!!! Like to think I could sell it . A guy that works for me his uncle ( who I do work for) has offered to buy or run it. I don't know what it would be worth to anyone . You never know we could meet up for a beer in perth( if we can afford the prices ) !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cozzy Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 Yeah defo....We could go halves on a half !! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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