Guest tinkerbell Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 Was reading an article this afternoon about Perth and it was saying - in a nutshell it was written by a guy who was from Perth and it was saying that Perth has now become so flooded with Brits (and others) that it feels (apart from the environment etc) that its more like living in a sunnier version of the UK becuase everyone you meet is British? Is this the case or was he having a bad day when he wrote it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 I think there are areas of Perth that probably have more Brits than others, but there are also areas which e.g. have more Asian migrants than others (when we say Asian we mean Chinese, Korean, etc.,) I certainly don't feel like its UK with sunshine, I think we're far more influenced by the US. The suburb I live has a share of Brits but they're not densly populated and there is a mix of many nationalities. You'll get a gist from threads about suburbs on here and other forums were the Brits gravitate to/talk about most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 There's some interesting, if out of date, demographic information at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perth,_Western_Australia#Demographics I suspect it's changed a bit since that data was gathered. For instance, with the Irish economy in the state it's in, it's probably not surprising I seem to meet/hear a lot of Irish people. I wouldn't go so far as to say it's like a sunnier version of the UK (there's differences/cultural variations) but it's probably as close as you'll get to a "UK with decent weather". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give me a break! Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 The suburb I used to live in was over 50% British. Definatly not a sunnier version of the UK though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulandDeb Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 A lot of the 'Aussies' i have spoken to are actually from the UK, what i mean is when i get chatting to them they sound full on Aussie but in fact they was born in the UK and chain ganged to here by there parents in the 70's:wink:. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portlaunay Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 As ali says different areas have a different demographic. The majority of Brits I find in Freo are either on a cruise, backpacking or here for the day. There are areas I'd hate to live in simply because there are so many Brits there and I'm sorry to say that the old moniker of the whinging pom is very much justified in a lot of cases. I guess there will always be a population who gravitate towards familiarity, particularly if they've never lived abroad before, this is a big step for most of us. For me the interesting thing has been hearing the stories people have to tell. Whether people have been here a month or 20 years all recall the journey and circumstance that bought them here, wherever they came from. Then there are those who were born here but history is so recent they are very much aware of the journey previous generations took (and it's very trendy to have a convict in the family don't you know!) It does seem that the newer the suburb the greater the concentration of Brits but there are always exceptions to the rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jamjar Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 As ali says different areas have a different demographic. The majority of Brits I find in Freo are either on a cruise, backpacking or here for the day. There are areas I'd hate to live in simply because there are so many Brits there and I'm sorry to say that the old moniker of the whinging pom is very much justified in a lot of cases. I guess there will always be a population who gravitate towards familiarity, particularly if they've never lived abroad before, this is a big step for most of us. For me the interesting thing has been hearing the stories people have to tell. Whether people have been here a month or 20 years all recall the journey and circumstance that bought them here, wherever they came from. Then there are those who were born here but history is so recent they are very much aware of the journey previous generations took (and it's very trendy to have a convict in the family don't you know!) It does seem that the newer the suburb the greater the concentration of Brits but there are always exceptions to the rule. Would you mind listing those areas that you would hate to live in. Wouldnt mind avoiding them :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tinkerbell Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Yes I would be interested in areas to avoid also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portlaunay Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Would you mind listing those areas that you would hate to live in. Wouldnt mind avoiding them :-) I think it's really subjective and very personal. We love Freo but it's not to everyone's liking. I really don't like many of the new area's; they seem too organised, contrived and have no soul. Joondalup seems to be a popular area but personally I'd be very unhappy there. I prefer rusty, old stuff, a bit crumbly, shaped by years of natural evolution rather than planning and we also spent a short while in Willeton, which is an older suburb but we only lasted 4 weeks and had to get out of there. Lifestyle plays a big part - we don't like having to drive everywhere, prefer smaller, independent shops and markets to multiples, like to live where there's a good community and lots of creative stuff happening. When we were back in the UK we, like you, did lots of research and had in our minds places we might end up. We were very, very wrong, it all looks very different once you're here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraighttothePoint Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Would you mind listing those areas that you would hate to live in. Wouldnt mind avoiding them :-) Ok I will do it in case anyone is feart. In general terms anything north, east and west of Edgewater esecially if the suburbs are new, Ocean Reef, Mindaries, Butler, Clarkson(sorry Somerly some Brits don't like to use the word Clarkson), Quinns and even Yanchep. Also anything south of Leeming all the way down to Mandurah and again any new suburbs in that area. On top of that any other high quality traditional Aussie suburbs if the Brits are doctors, lawyers or FIFO's!! Places like Nedlands and City Beach have a few snuck in there as well. Pretty much everywhere really However I not sure what you are expecting given the fall out from the GFC in the northern hemisphere and also the fact that Australia is a multi cultural society that embarces everyone. Good luck with your avoidance tactics!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portlaunay Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Good luck with your avoidance tactics!! :ssign7: I wonder where in Oz you'd have to go to spend a month without hearing a Brit accent. (I'd probably have to go back to South Croydon for that.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tinkerbell Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Ha ha ha very true!!!! I was over in London recently, havent bee for about 10 years - by god! I couldnt believe it, I am not lying when I say I walked from the car park to the office, roughly 15 minute walk and I didnt see one white person!!! There were gangs huddled outside shops and it was quite threatening - dont get me wrong, I dont mean because of the colour of their skin - I just felt like a fish out of water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portlaunay Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 I absolutely loved London for the multiculturalism. I've been lucky enough to have travelled a reasonable amount but there's nowhere like London for embracing and celebrating cultures. It changed over the 10 years we were there though. It went from being home to a place where you were worried about taking the kids into town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Flying Englishman Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) Pretty much born and raised in South London, lived here my whole life and I tell you - this place has changed so much since I was boy, and not for the better! It gets worse every year I think doesn't it? There is no such thing as community here any more. Nobody speaks english. There's more cheap labour here now than there ever has been forcing nationals out of employment. Wages are crap. It's dangerous at night, especially for young women and children. It's filty dirty. The transport system (when it works) is very expensive. Houses have been broken down into flats. Housing is ludicrously over priced... The list goes on and on and on, but then I guess that's why we're all on here huh? Edited April 19, 2012 by The Flying Englishman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 domain give stats for each suburb in WA including how many Brits - Nedlands 8%, Secret Harbour 21% Butler 26% Click on right hand side of page under "who lives in...." http://apm.domain.com.au/Research/Demographic.aspx?AddressLine=butler&LocationType=Suburb&State=WA&SuburbId=2278 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arwen Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 domain give stats for each suburb in WA including how many Brits - Nedlands 8%, Secret Harbour 21% Butler 26%Click on right hand side of page under "who lives in...." http://apm.domain.com.au/Research/Demographic.aspx?AddressLine=butler&LocationType=Suburb&State=WA&SuburbId=2278 Shows housing affordability for the average migrant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HeatherHighlander Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Personally I'd avoid Rockingham and that whole area like the plague. I lived there for six months - absolutely depressing and no soul whatsoever. Just streets and streets of horrible houses and one massive shopping centre in the middle. Freo is about the coolest place to live in Perth, as far as I am concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tinkerbell Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 its scary when you look at Perth that only 40% of the people there are Australian!!! http://apm.domain.com.au/Research/Demographic.aspx?AddressLine=perth&LocationType=Suburb&State=WA&SuburbId=11648 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 its scary when you look at Perth that only 40% of the people there are Australian!!! http://apm.domain.com.au/Research/Demographic.aspx?AddressLine=perth&LocationType=Suburb&State=WA&SuburbId=11648 That's probably born in Aus ... My passport gives my nationality as Australian lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryu2000 Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 I have been here for just over 7 months. I have been very surprised at the amount of British and South Africans in this city. Soon there will be no Australians left LOL. I was advised by my family who already live here that we should stay away from areas like Joondalup if we were looking for a different experience from the UK. Although I agree slightly no amount of whinging Poms attitude can change the Perth experience which is a very laid back one. So perhaps they were a tad harsh on Joondalup. I do agree however with the description of areas like Butler, i.e the newer parts of Perth. These seem to be identikit suburbs very similar to what they build in America. However, again I guess these areas are still very new and therefore have not had a chance to develop a character as such. I do prefer the older areas, or being nearer the older areas. However with the rental availability now at 1.6% chances are living in such areas are getting slimmer. So I'll just stay where I am for now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kips Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Would you mind listing those areas that you would hate to live in. Wouldnt mind avoiding them :-) Drove all over Perth and beyond when we moved here last September from NSW and decided - and this is only our opinion: Didn't like: Butler, Merriwa, Clarkson, Joondalup, Ellenbrook, Tapping,Quinns Rocks (except near the ocean), Landsdale, Osborne Park,Gosnells, Thornlie, Canningvale, Kenwick, Balljura, Malaga,Midland,Welshpool,Armadale,Byford, Aubin Grove, Success,Kwinana, Wellard,Warnbro, Rockingham (except the foreshore) and Port Kennedy (except near the ocean). Do like: Cottesloe (my favourite), Fremantle, Leederville (good vibe in the evenings), Subiaco,Mindarie, Burns Beach, Hillarys, Iluka, Kallaroo, Ocean Reef,Swanborune, City Beach, Mullaloo, Trigg,Shenton Park, East Perth,Mount Lawley, Nedlands, Peppermint Grove,Daglish, Dalkeith, Coogee,Secret Harbour, Halls Head (Seascapes estate),Mandurah,Dawesville,Bouvard,The Vines, Yanchep and Two Rocks (latter two too far from Perth). Unfortunately, can't afford to buy a house in the suburbs in Perth we like as my husband insists on a new build with a pool so ended up buying a large block of land in Baldivis to please him. I would prefer to live in Perth but compromising for a quiet life - and a smaller mortgage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulandDeb Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 A lot of Aussies i have spoken to, who have sold there houses are moving into areas like Clarkson and Yanchep, so not ALL poms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda@no9 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Drove all over Perth and beyond when we moved here last September from NSW and decided - and this is only our opinion: Didn't like: Butler, Merriwa, Clarkson, Joondalup, Ellenbrook, Tapping,Quinns Rocks (except near the ocean), Landsdale, Osborne Park,Gosnells, Thornlie, Canningvale, Kenwick, Balljura, Malaga,Midland,Welshpool,Armadale,Byford, Aubin Grove, Success,Kwinana, Wellard,Warnbro, Rockingham (except the foreshore) and Port Kennedy (except near the ocean). Do like: Cottesloe (my favourite), Fremantle, Leederville (good vibe in the evenings), Subiaco,Mindarie, Burns Beach, Hillarys, Iluka, Kallaroo, Ocean Reef,Swanborune, City Beach, Mullaloo, Trigg,Shenton Park, East Perth,Mount Lawley, Nedlands, Peppermint Grove,Daglish, Dalkeith, Coogee,Secret Harbour, Halls Head (Seascapes estate),Mandurah,Dawesville,Bouvard,The Vines, Yanchep and Two Rocks (latter two too far from Perth). Unfortunately, can't afford to buy a house in the suburbs in Perth we like as my husband insists on a new build with a pool so ended up buying a large block of land in Baldivis to please him. I would prefer to live in Perth but compromising for a quiet life - and a smaller mortgage. We've been looking at Aubin Grove, Atwell, Coogee. Would love Secret Harbour but too far out. Cottesloe is a fav but price depending. Can I ask what your take on Aubin Grove is? x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give me a break! Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Not being funny but it might be best to ask someone who actually lives in these suburbs, no disrespect to Kips but she has admitted she only drove through them all!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda@no9 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Not being funny but it might be best to ask someone who actually lives in these suburbs, no disrespect to Kips but she has admitted she only drove through them all!!!! Hubs is doing this through work. We visited in Jan and stayed with friends in Madeley. Visited other friends in Dartch. (?) I guess a lot would say don't like the area I live in here, but I love it. Personal taste and what folk are looking for! We're looking for this on a budget of $600-$700 per week. Yep, in me dreams! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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