British fish and chips

[StraighttothePoint]

I think when he says imported he means the frying equipment not the potatoes. it would be a marketing angle; australian potatoes, british (english?) style..

 

It was confirmed earlier in these posts that the guy whose idea this is was looking for feedback on what people wanted by the way of fish as well. In the UK fish and chips means either cod and chips or haddock and chips so he conceded that the fish would need to be imported as well.

 

This is I think is the big risk that Shovel Stu refers and therefore if there are delays in that then it would mean a British fish and chip shop advertising one thing and selling another because of delays of supplies of the main products.

 

The reality is that we are so far away from anywhere here that relying that much on imports for the key aspects of your business is a huge risk.

Edited January 29, 2013 by StraighttothePoint

[Jony001]

I think when he says imported he means the frying equipment not the potatoes. it would be a marketing angle; australian potatoes, british (english?) style..

 

I live in safety bay and you know what truly annoys me about fish n chips shops here - the waiting and the size of the portions!! we waited 20 mins in one, specifically order a large portion of chips and it barely fed one of us, let alone 3.

 

My vote is rockingham

 

the problem with charging $15 for fish n chips is that for a family you are starting to look around the 50 bucks mark which means it is becoming more of an "event" purchase than impulse buy. By opening a "british" chippy, you are squarely aiming yourself at the migrant market and (after 6 months) I am still converting to £. so 35 quid for a family fish and chip meal doesnt look like great value.

 

basically I wonder if you can get the volume of customer to support the usage of fresh potatoes. Frozen chips do spoil eventually but alot longer after fresh.

 

Thanks for the feed back..first thing first stop converting back to pounds.. When I was back in uk last year I would pay 20 / 25 pounds for a feed of fish and chips which works out at about $40 aud for my family..I'm thinking the same as you are about taking the family out for fish and chips so im looking at family deals etc..I'm thinking what I would pay and can afford.i would rather drop the price and have people come back more often than only once in a blue moon.

[Jony001]

I think what happens here is that a lot of folk phone ahead for orders and the shops are cooking those and not serving walk in's and also they cook to order. Like you I found it, well I will say different not annoying, because once you know why it makes sense. It was usually around a certain time anyway and no biggie. Of course you would not phone and order a bag of chips so you either wait awhile (WA) or stop going. The guy won't go bust if he does not sell a bag of chips so he does not care either way

 

i would not take phone orders..never have never will,it throws everything out..you don't go out for a meal and order in advance!you would wait 15 mins for a pizza or Chinese ?so why not fish and chips?on a good nite in a chippy you should not wait more than 5 mins..

[Goat]

I think when he says imported he means the frying equipment not the potatoes. it would be a marketing angle; australian potatoes, british (english?) style..

 

I live in safety bay and you know what truly annoys me about fish n chips shops here - the waiting and the size of the portions!! we waited 20 mins in one, specifically order a large portion of chips and it barely fed one of us, let alone 3.

 

My vote is rockingham

 

the problem with charging $15 for fish n chips is that for a family you are starting to look around the 50 bucks mark which means it is becoming more of an "event" purchase than impulse buy. By opening a "british" chippy, you are squarely aiming yourself at the migrant market and (after 6 months) I am still converting to £. so 35 quid for a family fish and chip meal doesnt look like great value.

 

basically I wonder if you can get the volume of customer to support the usage of fresh potatoes. Frozen chips do spoil eventually but alot longer after fresh.

 

The reason they don't use spuds is because of the potato board all spuds all sold thro registered wholesalers , you can't go to farm for a sack of reds lol

[Goat]

But it's not Britain it's Australia

[Mad Cow]

We have a nice chippy in butler but its always best to order in advance. You get used to it, it's just the way it is.

[Goat]

Lol hubby resorted to making his own steak pudding - but they take hours

 

Foreign food

[Goat]

sod the fish and chips sweets etc import gravy browning please ....................................... i am desperate for real gravy

so far that is the one and only thing i miss cant be doing gravy granules or ready made gravy in a bag arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

i want a traditional roast beef dinner with home made Yorkshire puds

 

Why gravy browning , make your own gravy , traditional lmao , it's so easy

[jackboots]

Whats gravy browning Ali ?

[Goat]

Bisto FFS it's in Coles or gravix do a Aussie equivalent

[jackboots]

I use Gravox brown onion gravy .. yummmmy !!

[Goat]

I use Gravox brown onion gravy .. yummmmy !!

 

Make your own ya heathen pfft

 

Mally. X

[StraighttothePoint]

i would not take phone orders..never have never will,it throws everything out..

 

 

Wow that is quite a statement. I understand your rationale but just to clarify you are going to import supplies, which is risky due to Perth's remote location, you are going to cook British style fish and chips (cod and haddock if the Brits want that - stated in a previous post) and you are not going to take phone orders which Aussie's do as second nature.

 

Are these factors not narrowing down your market and increasing your business risk? I am not criticising anything you are thinking about, or trying to achieve, just highlighting things which to many, including myself, would seem like unusal tactics when starting up a new business in another country. I suppose by not taking phone orders you could be seen as creating a USP (unique selling point) and offering customers a new style of service.

[Mad Cow]

I like the idea of walking into a chippy where the food is ready, it was convenient in the uk. Not sure if it would work here though?

[Guest rsg2369]

Sorry if this is a silly question, but what is the difference between British Fish and Chips and Ozzie Fish and Chips? Am I missing something here?

Are you for real?

[Mad Cow]

Are you for real?

 

 

Hi, what's the point to your question?

[Rossmoyne]

Are you for real?

 

That was a genuine question and was answered in post #6. Sarcasm not necessary thanks.

[StraighttothePoint]

Hi, what's the point to your question?

 

Although a tad sarcastic the poster has a valid point I think. The original post "Sorry if this is a silly question, but what is the difference between British Fish and Chips and Ozzie Fish and Chips? Am I missing something here?" was made three quarters of the way through this thread and the answer to the question was in previous posts back near the beginning. If the poster had read through the thread then they would have found the information they were subsequently asking for.

 

What tends to happen on this site is that when anyone new comes on board or somebody just thinks of a question they appear to be starting a new thread instead of searching through the site and getting information that has already been posted. I honestly think it is getting worse and has been for a few months now although I do not have the data to back that up just a view. It looks like many posters are just viewing the home page and then running off and starting new threads.

 

Is there anyway that when a new person registers that an automated e-mail goes to them stating clearly the need to search for information, to not start any new posts until a check on previous entries have been made and so on. Also it would need to include examples of how to search the system because again I fear there are a lot of folk who do not know how even to do the most simple investigations. I know that the site issues policy and guidelines but that does not appear to be working.

 

A short, simple bold style e-mail may help. Also merging threads has that been considered? How many posts about wanting to meet new friends can anyone create - merge them at least that should be easy enough - is it?

 

I fear the duplication could be turning people away from the site because if all they see are the same old same questions and answers. Anyway only a few thoughts.

[Mad Cow]

Although a tad sarcastic the poster has a valid point I think. The original post "Sorry if this is a silly question, but what is the difference between British Fish and Chips and Ozzie Fish and Chips? Am I missing something here?" was made three quarters of the way through this thread and the answer to the question was in previous posts back near the beginning. If the poster had read through the thread then they would have found the information they were subsequently asking for.

 

What tends to happen on this site is that when anyone new comes on board or somebody just thinks of a question they appear to be starting a new thread instead of searching through the site and getting information that has already been posted. I honestly think it is getting worse and has been for a few months now although I do not have the data to back that up just a view. It looks like many posters are just viewing the home page and then running off and starting new threads.

 

Is there anyway that when a new person registers that an automated e-mail goes to them stating clearly the need to search for information, to not start any new posts until a check on previous entries have been made and so on. Also it would need to include examples of how to search the system because again I fear there are a lot of folk who do not know how even to do the most simple investigations. I know that the site issues policy and guidelines but that does not appear to be working.

 

A short, simple bold style e-mail may help. Also merging threads has that been considered? How many posts about wanting to meet new friends can anyone create - merge them at least that should be easy enough - is it?

 

I fear the duplication could be turning people away from the site because if all they see are the same old same questions and answers. Anyway only a few thoughts.

 

 

I agree with you about the merging of threads! I tried this the other day with a couple of threads about wanting to meet new people! My attempt failed but that's cos I'm new to the moderation tools. I will practice and try again at a later date! I did start a nursing thread so that we could all post under one thread, it seems to be working? I'll forward your post to admin and let them have a look at your thoughts. Thanks.

[Admin]

Although a tad sarcastic the poster has a valid point I think. The original post "Sorry if this is a silly question, but what is the difference between British Fish and Chips and Ozzie Fish and Chips? Am I missing something here?" was made three quarters of the way through this thread and the answer to the question was in previous posts back near the beginning. If the poster had read through the thread then they would have found the information they were subsequently asking for.

 

What tends to happen on this site is that when anyone new comes on board or somebody just thinks of a question they appear to be starting a new thread instead of searching through the site and getting information that has already been posted. I honestly think it is getting worse and has been for a few months now although I do not have the data to back that up just a view. It looks like many posters are just viewing the home page and then running off and starting new threads.

 

Is there anyway that when a new person registers that an automated e-mail goes to them stating clearly the need to search for information, to not start any new posts until a check on previous entries have been made and so on. Also it would need to include examples of how to search the system because again I fear there are a lot of folk who do not know how even to do the most simple investigations. I know that the site issues policy and guidelines but that does not appear to be working.

 

A short, simple bold style e-mail may help. Also merging threads has that been considered? How many posts about wanting to meet new friends can anyone create - merge them at least that should be easy enough - is it?

 

I fear the duplication could be turning people away from the site because if all they see are the same old same questions and answers. Anyway only a few thoughts.

 

To address some of the points raised

 

People signing up and starting new threads without searching is the nature of internet forums. Yes, it would be relatively simple process to include some guidelines about using the search facility in the welcome email which is sent out to all new users (and we'll certainly consider it)..would it help..I'm not entirely convinced.. The welcome email contains detailed instructions on how to start new threads and how to post.. yet we get numerous emails sent to us asking how to start a new thread and how to post. People don't tend to read the blurb.

 

Besides which, even if there's a thread on a subject, the information in it may no longer be relevant and it's entirely justifiable to start a new thread. This is particularly true with migration related issues (which are constantly changing) but even something as simple as 'will my TV work in Australia'. With the Analogue to Digital switch-over, the answer now could be different to the answer on a thread 12 months ago for example.

 

Re: Merging of threads for people seeking new friends ? I don't really see the logic in that (unless they're a very similar demographic) New friends threads are full of specifics - location, age etc. I'm not sure 18 year olds are going to be interested in hooking up with people twice their age etc. It's much easier for someone to scan down the thread titles in the 'Socialising & Get Together Forum' and to find threads which catch their eye than to have 1 enormous chaotic friends thread full of disparate posts and posters.

 

From time to time we will merge threads - typically if threads on the same subject (usually a topical news event for example) are started at a similar time to each other, but there's various reasons when we won't merge threads. Taking the example above re: TV's. If we were to merge a newly created thread on the subject with an older thread, not only would the content of the thread be confusing with conflicting answers, all the participants on the old thread would suddenly start receiving email notifications about the new posts on that thread, which would in all likelihood be annoying and not relevant to the original thread participants.

 

With regards duplication turning people away from the site, well it's just not the case. Visitor numbers are a record level - http://www.perthpoms.com/forum/welcome-perth/5697-perth-poms-your-help-required.html#post54055

 

and at the end of the day, new members are the lifeblood of any internet forum. We had over 1,000 members sign up last year who have yet to make a single post on the forum, we don't really want to put barriers up (however slight they are) to discourage members from making that all important first post.

[StraighttothePoint]

To address some of the points raised

 

People signing up and starting new threads without searching is the nature of internet forums. Yes, it would be relatively simple process to include some guidelines about using the search facility in the welcome email which is sent out to all new users (and we'll certainly consider it)..would it help..I'm not entirely convinced.. The welcome email contains detailed instructions on how to start new threads and how to post.. yet we get numerous emails sent to us asking how to start a new thread and how to post. People don't tend to read the blurb.

 

Besides which, even if there's a thread on a subject, the information in it may no longer be relevant and it's entirely justifiable to start a new thread. This is particularly true with migration related issues (which are constantly changing) but even something as simple as 'will my TV work in Australia'. With the Analogue to Digital switch-over, the answer now could be different to the answer on a thread 12 months ago for example.

 

Re: Merging of threads for people seeking new friends ? I don't really see the logic in that (unless they're a very similar demographic) New friends threads are full of specifics - location, age etc. I'm not sure 18 year olds are going to be interested in hooking up with people twice their age etc. It's much easier for someone to scan down the thread titles in the 'Socialising & Get Together Forum' and to find threads which catch their eye than to have 1 enormous chaotic friends thread full of disparate posts and posters.

 

From time to time we will merge threads - typically if threads on the same subject (usually a topical news event for example) are started at a similar time to each other, but there's various reasons when we won't merge threads. Taking the example above re: TV's. If we were to merge a newly created thread on the subject with an older thread, not only would the content of the thread be confusing with conflicting answers, all the participants on the old thread would suddenly start receiving email notifications about the new posts on that thread, which would in all likelihood be annoying and not relevant to the original thread participants.

 

With regards duplication turning people away from the site, well it's just not the case. Visitor numbers are a record level - http://www.perthpoms.com/forum/welcome-perth/5697-perth-poms-your-help-required.html#post54055

 

and at the end of the day, new members are the lifeblood of any internet forum. We had over 1,000 members sign up last year who have yet to make a single post on the forum, we don't really want to put barriers up (however slight they are) to discourage members from making that all important first post.

 

Thanks for the reply written in the style of a true tech but may be you are not one who knows

 

 

1. People signing up and starting new threads etc. Consider removing the "blurb" then because it clearly is not all being, review your content and put out a more simplified introduction highlighting clearly things to check before posting and only sign post the "blurb".

 

2. Besides which, even if there's a thread on a subject, the information in it may no longer be relevant and it's entirely justifiable to start a new thread. Don't disagree with that because it is common sense. However "Which suburb should I live in?", "What are the costs or renting?" and so on are more or less the same answers over a 12 month period give or take as are a few other selected topics.

 

3. Re: Merging of threads for people seeking new friends ? A simple review of threads requesting friends can identify those that can be merged. I do not think I suggested one single thread anywhere in my post?

 

4. With regards duplication turning people away from the site, well it's just not the case. Visitor numbers are a record level. Not sure that visitor numbers link directly with duplication of posts? Visitor numbers doing what? Home page views, browsing, searching?? A range of activities could be related to visitor numbers in terms of their interaction with the site. Also if my websites had 1000 new members, and none had posted, I think I would be very interested to know as to why they have not posted? That is a biggish number. Could they be turning away because of duplication in posts or they think the quality of the site is poor or simply visiting and not getting involved? I do not know, do you? There must be a number of reasons.

 

None of this is meant to be a bag because this site is a real bonus for people and is certainly a route to information. I appreciate the time and effort that goes into implementing, managing and monitoring a site like this. Any additional work for administrators is not always welcome for various reasons and again I undertand that. All I am suggesting is that for somebody who reads and contributes to these threads on a regular basis it is something that I felt I was noticing as a trend and a type of recent change. If it is only me then fine I will jump back in my box and be quiet.

Edited February 14, 2013 by StraighttothePoint

[mark.w]

I thought yhis thread was about fish and chips

[Guest guest9824]

Mix in a tray with gravy and scraps. So very classy!

 

Pea

[dxboz]

A few years ago Harry Ramsdens opened a fish and chip restaurant/take away in Melbourne selling imported UK fish. Unfortunately it did not last. Aussies did not want to eat frozen fish.

[Jony001]

Ok guys shop has been sorted equipment is on it's way cod haddock, peas, curry sauce ,pies. haggis, black pudding white pudding ,fagotts ,fresh cut chips, drinks will be on sale mid to end of September in currambine!!second one opening soon after that SOR..