yanakonda Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I've seen so many times how this forum helps peolpe in the difficult situations, so here is mine (I thought it was worth trying anyways) I have recently applied for my WA SS, have everything ready and clicking and couple of days ago The Case Manager told me that since my Partner is on a Student visa in Australia and I am his secondary applicant it means that in order to file my PR 190 Visa I have to prove that some employer in WA would want to hire me... Im not in Perth, I dont need employer sponsorship, I dont even have full time work rights and now within next 20 days I need a letter from any business in WA stating that I could be offered a job. I know it's one chance in a million, but maybe there is some business owners here that remember how hard it was once to fight for the visa or just willing to help and maybe they could give me the letter I need. There will be no obligations, I dont have to have a job and work there, I won't even be in WA for next 6 months or longer, I just need a proof that I am hirable. I work in Administration/ Office Support and will PM my resume and answer any other questions if there is a person out there willing to help... Please consider, my dream is crushing against bureaucracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verystormy Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 From what i understand with this visa, you dont need to prove someone is willing to hire you, but that there are jobs you can apply for and be qualifid to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanakonda Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 From what i understand with this visa, you dont need to prove someone is willing to hire you, but that there are jobs you can apply for and be qualifid to get. Hi, Verystormy! See, the problem is that they treat me like international student because of my partners visa. And with that I need an actual letter from employer a brick wall I'm hitting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxboz Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Hi Yana - sounds like a hard situation. I don't think you would get an employer to say they would sponsor you but what about trying temporary agencies such as Hays etc., They might be prepared to give you something in writing that based on your skills they would be willing to hire you for temp work - just a thought. Don't know if that would be sufficient but worth a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanakonda Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 That's the thing though- I don't need a sponsorship. I just need an employer letter saying yes, there is a job that I could suit for. Not taking the job, not needing sponsorship. Just a hypothetical job offer. That's why so frustrated. Don't need much if only I knew some people in WA... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmacl Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Sounds like something got lost in translation. For State sponsorship they ask if you have researched job opportunities and what you will do if you cant get employed in your skill as part of your application form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I don't think anyone would be willing to just give you a letter saying they will sponsor you as they themselves will need to meet some sort of criteria (I guess) and they would jepordise with DIAIC any genuine applications they may make and potentially face a fine. Can you not be classed as a defacto on your partners visa or do you not meet that criteria? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanakonda Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Sounds like something got lost in translation. For State sponsorship they ask if you have researched job opportunities and what you will do if you cant get employed in your skill as part of your application form. Oh guys, trust me I wish I just misunderstood. Here is the link. Remember, they consider me a student: http://www.migration.wa.gov.au/SiteCollectionDocuments/120912%20UPDATED%20state_sponsorship_criteria_2012_2013.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanakonda Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I don't need sponsorship!!! I am qualified for 190 visa. My partner however has me as de facto on his student visa so now my application being treated as if I am a student!!! All I need is a letter stating I am needed somewhere! I'm not accepting sponsorship, I'm not accepting job offer. I don't need all this. WA asks me for this letter to give me state sponsorship!!! So state is my sponsor, but for international students they want to see the job opportunities. I thought I was so clear in my post and now it sounds like I'm trying to commit some kind of crime with ingenuen applications and all. :-((( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 It doesn't sound like you're committing a crime, but an employer offering a hypothetical job may very well be ..... and there would be the problem (if the job offer was checked out). I'd seek the advice of a registered migration agent Yana - they must come across this and will be able to offer you some qualified advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanakonda Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I don't think anyone would be willing to just give you a letter saying they will sponsor you as they themselves will need to meet some sort of criteria (I guess) and they would jepordise with DIAIC any genuine applications they may make and potentially face a fine. Can you not be classed as a defacto on your partners visa or do you not meet that criteria? Well, Ali, I'm sure if I had the slightest chance of getting help I just lost it after your post with DIAIC and jeportising and all this you commented that has very little to do with my situation how could you even think I'm trying to get someone to lie to immigration? This is sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I must have misunderstood - I thougt you were asking for someone to give you a letter for immigration saying that they are offering you a job (but that the job doesn't have to be there). I was trying to point out that if DIAIC checked with the employer (as they sometimes do ... there have been companies contacted to ask if Joe Bloggs is working there), they may get into trouble. But if that's not what you're suggesting then it really isn't an issue. I can understand your frustration which is why I suggested that you seek advice from a qualifed and registered migration agent who will be able to advise you appropriately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmacl Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 You don't need a job for SS!! That's the whole point of a PR visa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanakonda Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 You don't need a job for SS!! That's the whole point of a PR visa! Thats what i thought! Apparently I do need a letter not a job. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkiwd Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I see it does say that the additional criteria needed if you have studied outside Australia is an offer of employment for 12 months. not sure how to get around this, short of actually getting a job:confused: I agree with Ali, worth asking a migration agent... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portlaunay Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I don't need sponsorship!!! I am qualified for 190 visa. What's the problem then? If you're qualified, you shouldn't need what you are asking for. I've never heard of anyone needing a hypothetical job offer from a prospective employer and this is not in the qualifying terms of the 190 visa. To quote DIAC RequirementsApplications are by invitation only. To be invited to apply, a person must: submit an Expression of Interest and be nominated have an occupation that is on the relevant skilled occupation list have a suitable skills assessment for that occupation be less than 50 years of age when the invitation is issued meet the English language requirements be able to score at least 60 on the points test. I don't see anything about a letter from a business stating that there is the potential for work for someone with a specified range of skills. (Isn't that what the SOL is for?) I work in Administration/ Office Support and will PM my resume and answer any other questions if there is a person out there willing to help... Which occupation and which SOL are you matching your role and experience to? Well, Ali, I'm sure if I had the slightest chance of getting help I just lost it after your post with DIAIC and jeportising and all this you commented that has very little to do with my situation how could you even think I'm trying to get someone to lie to immigration? This is sad. You know, there are people on here who are trying to help you. If there has been any miscommunication I'm not certain it has been from ali. Making this request on an open forum and then expressing your frustration at someone trying to better understand the situation may not be doing you any favours. What ali has said is quite correct, any business providing any kind of written confirmation that a job might exist for someone with your skills and qualifications could very well land them in hot water with DIAC. I'd be amazed if anyone would be willing to do what you are asking, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkiwd Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 on the OPs previous link it does state that international students require an offer of employment in the additional criteria section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 But the OP seems to be asking for an offer of employment that doesn't necessarily exist - which would not be what immigration is after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanakonda Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 What's the problem then? If you're qualified, you shouldn't need what you are asking for. I've never heard of anyone needing a hypothetical job offer from a prospective employer and this is not in the qualifying terms of the 190 visa. To quote DIAC RequirementsApplications are by invitation only. To be invited to apply, a person must: submit an Expression of Interest and be nominated have an occupation that is on the relevant skilled occupation list have a suitable skills assessment for that occupation be less than 50 years of age when the invitation is issued meet the English language requirements be able to score at least 60 on the points test. I don't see anything about a letter from a business stating that there is the potential for work for someone with a specified range of skills. (Isn't that what the SOL is for?) Which occupation and which SOL are you matching your role and experience to? You know, there are people on here who are trying to help you. If there has been any miscommunication I'm not certain it has been from ali. Unfortunately I don't think you read what I posted. I even posted a link. I never said a thing about DIAC either. I needed letter for WA sponsorship. My frustration is mostly with people making comments without even checking out my posts. I've wrote at least 3 times that I don't need a sponsorship from employer. And please don't post links to immi site cause this is not what it is about. Why answer the post if you don't understand the question? Thank you all for expressing your opinions, guys. Sadly none of this helps but making the post pointless... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanakonda Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 But the OP seems to be asking for an offer of employment that doesn't necessarily exist - which would not be what immigration is after. Ali, I'm asking for letter of the job that exists. What I'm saying is I will not be taking this offer as this is not required and also I wouldn't be able to take it until I go thru the whole visa process. We all know it takes months. Offer is not an obligation for employer to hire me. I'm sorry you are not understanding the things I say at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 The majority of our members are not qualified migration agents and we have not been able to answer your query to a degree that is favourable to you. I would again suggest that you seek the advice of a qualified migration agent . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Ali, I'm asking for letter of the job that exists. What I'm saying is I will not be taking this offer as this is not required and also I wouldn't be able to take it until I go thru the whole visa process. We all know it takes months. Offer is not an obligation for employer to hire me. I'm sorry you are not understanding the things I say at all If you only need to show a job exists then print some adverts from seek.com that show you match the skills. You mentioned that you were after a job offer - which I believe to be different in that if is offering a position (not saying a position exists). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanakonda Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 The majority of our members are not qualified migration agents and we have not been able to answer your query to a degree that is favourable to you. I would again suggest that you seek the advice of a qualified migration agent . Ali, my post not even in immigration section. It's about job offer letter. I appreciate you trying to understand it but I don't think this post was meant to be a discussion. I was hoping to find an employer who would look at my résumé (a good one by the way) and maybe consider helping. The difficulty of my situation is that I only have 20 days otherwise Id find a job offer the regular way through job sites as I am qualified and experienced in what I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portlaunay Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 That's me really confused then. :ssign7: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanakonda Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 That's me really confused then. :ssign7: That makes two of us ;-) I thought I had all set for my WA SPonsored PR visa. Oh well... I guess not the plan life has for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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